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babe said:
"Secular Humanism", if kept dissociated from propaganda intended to legitimize political action inimical to the rights of others, could be discussed on the merits of the ideas just as well as any religion, but it is inherently, also a "religion".
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I agree that in many ways, "humanism" performs the moral functions of a religion; "secular" just means that religions should not be the basis for government decisions (I would agree that humanism is on the list for this purpose, as well).
 
One Brow said:
I agree that in many ways, "humanism" performs the moral functions of a religion; "secular" just means that religions should not be the basis for government decisions (I would agree that humanism is on the list for this purpose, as well).
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For as much as I rag on you about your seemingly obdurate advocacy of progressive agenda items, I have to put you in a whole 'nuther class from those who are willing to diss me as a blowhard before they actually understand what I said.

Class Act.
 
babe said:
For as much as I rag on you about your seemingly obdurate advocacy of progressive agenda items, I have to put you in a whole 'nuther class from those who are willing to diss me as a blowhard before they actually understand what I said.

Class Act.
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You need to remember that a large proportion of the people don't want to actually think about others' points of view; they just want to happily be told what to think, and go to sleep each night secure in their knowledge that everyone who thinks even a tiny bit differently are morons and not really "people".
 
and sometimes (oftentimes???) a woman's harshest critics are other women...

we can't always blame the men
 
babe said:
The problem with your assertion is that it's just false. The public has been largely cut out of the information base, out of the news coverage, out of the positions of leverage in our educational system, out of the legislative and judicial and executive functions of government.
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Um . . . ok, but your argument above has absolutely nothing to do with my statement--nothing whatsoever, so if you'd hoped to demonstrate why my statement is false, you've failed miserably.

The rest of your rant is right wing alarmist BS.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
Um . . . ok, but your argument above has absolutely nothing to do with my statement--nothing whatsoever, so if you'd hoped to demonstrate why my statement is false, you've failed miserably.

The rest of your rant is right wing alarmist BS.
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you mad, bro?

as much as it is deplorable when people resort to hateful stereotypical labels when talking about rape victims, it's just as deplorable for you to interpret others, whom you know essentially nothing about, with hateful stereotypical labels. Unless you can deal with the subject intellectually, marking some meaningful distinctions between "right wing" and "left wing" that don't invest either with a hate value, you're no better than a true right wing alamist conspiracy theorist sexist capitalist racist bigot in your own right. . . . or left, perhaps in your case.

The problem with rhetoric begins when words lose their meaning in a flood of hate.
 
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Darkwing Duck said:
Glass houses...
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Great album.

Glass+Houses.jpg
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Glass houses...
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Takes one to know one. . . . .

I guess I knew some would see me for what I deplore in others, and it's a fair point, except for one thing.

I don't hate anyone, and while I may be somewhat silly for imagining such improbable things, I hope to awaken in others the same kind of introspection and careful rejection of the whole toolchest of demagogery that has ever been deployed to manipulate a credulous populace otherwise well-enough off to enjoy their beer, their food, their families, and their work, with nary a care about world politics.
 
babe said:
Takes one to know one. . . . .

I guess I knew some would see me for what I deplore in others, and it's a fair point, except for one thing.

I don't hate anyone, and while I may be somewhat silly for imagining such improbable things, I hope to awaken in others the same kind of introspection and careful rejection of the whole toolchest of demagogery that has ever been deployed to manipulate a credulous populace otherwise well-enough off to enjoy their beer, their food, their families, and their work, with nary a care about world politics.
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Which again, is probably the same sentiment shared by those you disagree with who get called out. Glass houses...
 
babe said:
...I don't hate anyone, and while I may be somewhat silly for imagining such improbable things, I hope to awaken in others the same kind of introspection and careful rejection of the whole toolchest of demagogery that has ever been deployed to manipulate a credulous populace otherwise well-enough off to enjoy their beer, their food, their families, and their work, with nary a care about world politics.
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wait... hold on... I'm confused...

what is this tool chest of demagoguery of which you speak?

and who is doing the manipulating?

and are you saying we shouldn't enjoy our food, our beer and our families?

and what does bring well-off have to do with any of this?

I think the word that comes to mind here is obfusciate
 
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