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yet another stupid death in children gun related accident...yes, in USA of course.

See, that's were we differ. I think it is stupidity. There is not a single justifiable reason for young woman to carry loaded gun in Walmart in Hayden ( been there, very safe and quiet place I think I may have even been to that Walmart as well ). It is wrong mentality, education, tradition, laws and general approach to guns that results in these numerous gun related death accidents in USA. Yet you keep thinking it is carelessness. Until you Americans change your mentality when it comes to guns it will keep happening.
It's not necessary to drive a car while running an errand that's only one mile away. Yet how many people die from car accidents on such errands? Do you feel that we should make short car trips illegal?
 
It's not necessary to drive a car while running an errand that's only one mile away. Yet how many people die from car accidents on such errands? Do you feel that we should make short car trips illegal?

In this country we make tons of things illegal when we believe there is a public safety reason for it. Which I always found sorta bizarre since the zeitgeist of this country is all about personal freedom, yet the laws don't always reflect it.

However I doubt anything that 80% or whatever of the country owns/does will be made illegal. Taking away freedoms tends to apply to those actions that a minority of the population practices.
 
It's not necessary to drive a car while running an errand that's only one mile away. Yet how many people die from car accidents on such errands? Do you feel that we should make short car trips illegal?

I never said it should be illegal ( to carry the gun). Problem is with American mentality. No sane person would ever consider taking gun while shopping at 10 am in Walmart, lol that is just pathetic state of mind. Have your gun at home safely locked in case of burglary or something like that for self defense. Why would you need it while shopping? WHY????????
 
I personally will carry a gun anywhere I damn well please. And it will never ever accidentally kill me or anyone else, because I am a responsible concealed carrier.
This is a tragic accident/situation that could have been prevented. I feel badly for this lady, her family, and anyone else affected....but intelligence and common sense prevent most of these kinds of accidents. And yes, sometimes there are just freak accidents.
The number of accidental shooting deaths is infinitesimal when compared with the number of people who own/carry guns.

Why is it so much more common in USA? Swiss have more guns per capita than Americans yet their gun related accident numbers are much lower.
 
I never said it should be illegal ( to carry the gun). Problem is with American mentality. No sane person would ever consider taking gun while shopping at 10 am in Walmart, lol that is just pathetic state of mind. Have your gun at home safely locked in case of burglary or something like that for self defense. Why would you need it while shopping? WHY????????

Why would you need a gun in a damn elementary school at 10:00 am?
Why would you need one in an Ahmish school house?
Why would you need one In a shopping mall days before Christmas?
Why would you need one in a rural high school?
The list goes on and on....
The answer....because psychotic ******** can show up anywhere.
That and the zombie apocalypse.
 
Why would you need a gun in a damn elementary school at 10:00 am?
Why would you need one in an Ahmish school house?
Why would you need one In a shopping mall days before Christmas?
Why would you need one in a rural high school?
The list goes on and on....
The answer....because psychotic ******** can show up anywhere.
That and the zombie apocalypse.

The answer should be - you do not need a gun in any of theses situations.
Meteor can hit you on the head while walking outside. Based on your logic you should wear helmet anytime you step outside.
 
Oh Jesus, really? I like you nightmare but this is your logic?

Unless you have a crystal ball and can know with 100% certainty when you would actually need to have a gun with you for protection, how do you know you won't get attacked at the grocery store, or school, or anywhere else you go? I'm not saying it's wise to take a gun everywhere you go, but I don't have a problem with people exercising their right to do so.
 
The answer should be - you do not need a gun in any of theses situations.
Meteor can hit you on the head while walking outside. Based on your logic you should wear helmet anytime you step outside.

I completely agree that you SHOULDN'T ever need a gun. But, since it's not a perfect world, sometimes you might.
 
Unless you have a crystal ball and can know with 100% certainty when you would actually need to have a gun with you for protection, how do you know you won't get attacked at the grocery store, or school, or anywhere else you go? I'm not saying it's wise to take a gun everywhere you go, but I don't have a problem with people exercising their right to do so.
How do you know a mountain lion or a bear won't attack you when you go to check your mail?
Should probably carry bear mace at all times, even in the city.

And you never know when a flash flood might hit so don't leave home without a flotation device
 
How do you know a mountain lion or a bear won't attack you when you go to check your mail?
Should probably carry bear mace at all times, even in the city.

And you never know when a flash flood might hit so don't leave home without a flotation device

Is there a reason why people shouldn't be able to do any of those things? I get that it's not wise, just like it isn't always wise to carry a loaded weapon with you, but people still have the right to. I don't have a problem with it as long as they take the necessary precautions. The woman who was shot in this didn't and paid the price.
 
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