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It is nice to see the young guys play but if anyone thinks the Jazz are one player Wiggins away from being contenders then I think you have drank too much kool-aid.

We still don't know if Burke or Neto are the answer at PG and both are undersized.
Gobert needs to add 30-40 lbs. We don't know if he is capable of it.
Jazz need at least two or three more shooters. No I don't count Rush or Jefferson as shooters.
Jazz need to keep Hayward at the right price
Jazz need to get more athletic.
Jazz need to hope that Favors improves offensively
Jazz need to hope that Kanter improves defensively
Jazz need both 2014 picks to be above average.
Jazz are going to have some one step up and be a leader.
 
It is nice to see the young guys play but if anyone thinks the Jazz are one player Wiggins away from being contenders then I think you have drank too much kool-aid.

We still don't know if Burke or Neto are the answer at PG and both are undersized.
Gobert needs to add 30-40 lbs. We don't know if he is capable of it.
Jazz need at least two or three more shooters. No I don't count Rush or Jefferson as shooters.
Jazz need to keep Hayward at the right price
Jazz need to get more athletic.
Jazz need to hope that Favors improves offensively
Jazz need to hope that Kanter improves defensively
Jazz need both 2014 picks to be above average.
Jazz are going to have some one step up and be a leader.

Why don't you count rush
Agreed on Favors and Kanter, at least more consistent.
Burke will step up into that leadership role I think.
More athletic? While always nice Favors, Evans, Hayward and Burks are all athletic.
 
It is nice to see the young guys play but if anyone thinks the Jazz are one player Wiggins away from being contenders then I think you have drank too much kool-aid.

We still don't know if Burke or Neto are the answer at PG and both are undersized.
Gobert needs to add 30-40 lbs. We don't know if he is capable of it.
Jazz need at least two or three more shooters. No I don't count Rush or Jefferson as shooters.
Jazz need to keep Hayward at the right price
Jazz need to get more athletic.
Jazz need to hope that Favors improves offensively
Jazz need to hope that Kanter improves defensively
Jazz need both 2014 picks to be above average.
Jazz are going to have some one step up and be a leader.

we should go after cj miles this summer
 
Do those saying the bench sucks realize the starters are being outscored by far more on a per minute basis?
 
Do those saying the bench sucks realize the starters are being outscored by far more on a per minute basis?

No, I did not notice that Hayward was a team low of -25 +/- last night.

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I know there are going to be (a lot of) games like last night where they get destroyed, but the lack of engagement I saw from Favors was disappointing. I also wonder how many turnovers Hayward has to get from trying to dribble through traffic before he realizes that it's just not working. I think the "poor handle" scouting report has circulated.
 
Do those saying the bench sucks realize the starters are being outscored by far more on a per minute basis?

Thank you Alec Burks. And I think we all knew the starters were going to struggle scoring... Let alone without a legit nba pg.

On with the tank. Wewt
 
With the exception of last night's game, the other losses were pretty close and competitive games, which is a positive. I think it has more to do with coaching and injuries at this point than the players on the court. They say if a team loses by more than 5 it is the players fault, but if they lose by less than 5 it is the coach's. Even in the Houston game where they lost by 11, I think it was the coach's as McHale made great 2nd half adjustments and was motivating, while Corbin appeared not to have an answer and went away from the pick and roll with Hayward and Favors/Kanter that was working so well in the 1st half.
 
Even in the Houston game where they lost by 11, I think it was the coach's as McHale made great 2nd half adjustments and was motivating, while Corbin appeared not to have an answer and went away from the pick and roll with Hayward and Favors/Kanter that was working so well in the 1st half.

The adjustment was that Houston played with effort in the second half. Houston is way better than the Jazz, and they only needed to play one half of basketball to beat them. Didn't matter who the coach was.

No coach would be able to consistently lead the team to victory as it is currenty constructed. There is always at least one weak defender on the floor, not near enough shooting to space the floor adequately, and not a legitimate number one or two option. Plus, the best players are very young, and inexperienced in the new roles they have.
 
Thank you Alec Burks. And I think we all knew the starters were going to struggle scoring... Let alone without a legit nba pg.

On with the tank. Wewt

18ppg
12ppg
17ppg
17ppg

Core 4 ppg (rounded up).

Edit: So while there are some obvious struggles they are also getting points as well. Good sign.
 
The adjustment was that Houston played with effort in the second half. Houston is way better than the Jazz, and they only needed to play one half of basketball to beat them. Didn't matter who the coach was.

LazyD, I don't disagree with your assement of effort, but I want to add that I heard two related and disturbing conversations after the Houston loss. The first was the interview with Enes Kanter, he was asked what the difference was between the first and second half, what had Houston done differently? Enes just shook his head and said I don't know what they did but nothing worked the second half.

A few moments later they were interviewing Dwight howard and asked him about Enes Kanter and why Enes had got off to a great start and then struggled in the second half, was it more effort or strategy,? Dwight looked right at the reporter and said, oh it was strategy in the first half asik was playing off of him and giving him space, at halftime coach told him to get up into Kanter when he caught the ball.

Dwit knew and recognized the strategy/technique change, but Enes was completely clueless. It caused me to wonder if the jazz coaches also recognized the change and if they tried to coach a clueless Kanter or if the Jazz coaches missed out on the change.
 
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