CEO raises minimum wage to $70000, takes $70000 wage himself until profits are met.

[NAOS]

Christ kid... fine.

*The time I've dedicated to self-directed learning and what that has revealed to me about the world

Now imagine you open a door and realize there are people other than yourself in the world.

Siro liked this post. Still trying to weasel in here.

 

[Harambe]

^this ish blows.

1. I'm questioning the value of what I know ALL THE TIME. But that process submits very poorly to your cute quantitative thought experiment. I'm not sitting there thinking, "I know 30% of the world!" and then later thinking, "Oh ****! I know 25% of the world!".

If this is true, it's really, really hard to tell.

2. We shouldn't teach current and future crack addicts? Are they less than human? What does their drug addiction have to do with the process of learning, exactly?

We should teach them. But it'd be great if they did something with the chance they're given. It's like when any teacher see's their student on the street.

3. WTF? I'm supposed to imagine their lives and my life as less functional so that you can make a point?

Dr Jones would be imagining his life a little less functional, and a with a little less pride with higher taxes.

Wow... ok... woah. What's been proven here???

That no matter the situation, you'll be against anyone that's not clearly defined as your side
And you fail to acknowledge someone else's gains because it's dollars and not charity work

 

[Harambe]

Siro liked this post. Still trying to weasel in here.

There a things you can't see. PM's, different forums, rep. But this is likely another chance for you to imagine yourself knowing everything... why admit anything else.

 

[NAOS]

If this is true, it's really, really hard to tell.

We should teach them. But it'd be great if they did something with the chance they're given. It's like when any teacher see's their student on the street.

Dr Jones would be imagining his life a little less functional, and a with a little less pride with higher taxes.



That no matter the situation, you'll be against anyone that's not clearly defined as your side
And you fail to acknowledge someone else's gains because it's dollars and not charity work

Are you admitting a troll job with this post and your last PM to me? Because, for real, this is insulting and stupid.

 

[NAOS]

There a things you can't see. PM's, different forums, rep. But this is likely another chance for you to imagine yourself knowing everything... why admit anything else.

troll on

 

[NAOS]

1. I champion ElRoachO's posts

2. He produces a thought experiment that I begrudgingly walk through so he can make more good points, I guess

3. I'm the *******.

4. OK

 

[Harambe]

Are you admitting a troll job with this post and your last PM to me? Because, for real, this is insulting and stupid.

Nope. Just trying to lighten your mood with humor.

troll on

Clearly I'm the troll because I make every attempt to get you to see it any other way than you do.

I'm sigging that on principle alone.

 

[NAOS]

Nope. Just trying to lighten your mood with humor.

Clearly I'm the troll because I make every attempt to get you to see it any other way than you do.

I'm sigging that on principle alone.

Hold onto that last thread, braugh. This has been worth it if you do.

 

[Harambe]

Hold onto that last thread, braugh. This has been worth it if you do.

lollllllllllerskates.

 

[franklin]

https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/introduction

$6k a year is expensive when you make $15k.

Then there's the cost of books, transportation, other materials, etc.

True.

If you cannot make more than $15k you probably have no business in college in the first place. Go pick up a shovel. Most college kids in Utah can easily earn over $30,000/yr. Kids in New York can earn $15k in 3 summer months waiting tables.

And the cost of housing, food, personal care. Entertainment goes out the window.

Adding in cost of living is disingenuous. It's there regardless.

We haven't even gotten to all the subsidies and scholarships available to lower the cost even further.

If after all that you still cannot afford tuition then take out a $30,000 loan and finish a 4 year degree asap. It's a ****ing car payment for hell's sake. The vast majority of majors make either in the $55k-74.9k range or $75k+. You can guess the ones that don't (social sciences, teachers, film...).

Anyone with a pulse can graduate by 22 and skate through life doing the bare minimum and retire by 52-56 with 100% pre-retirement income while waiting for social security and medicare to kick in. School is cheap, our model is so easy it's almost sad.

 

[NAOS]

lollllllllllerskates.

perfect ending to this process with no point (even though a point was promised...hell, it was demanded). Seriously quite a flourish here.

 

[NAOS]

True.

If you cannot make more than $15k you probably have no business in college in the first place. Go pick up a shovel. Most college kids in Utah can easily earn over $30,000/yr. Kids in New York can earn $15k in 3 summer months waiting tables.




Adding in cost of living is disingenuous. It's there regardless.

We haven't even gotten to all the subsidies and scholarships available to lower the cost even further.

If after all that you still cannot afford tuition then take out a $30,000 loan and finish a 4 year degree asap. It's a ****ing car payment for hell's sake. The vast majority of majors make either in the $55k-74.9k range or $75k+. You can guess the ones that don't (social sciences, teachers, film...).

Anyone with a pulse can graduate by 22 and skate through life doing the bare minimum and retire by 52-56 with 100% pre-retirement income while waiting for social security and medicare to kick in. School is cheap, our model is so easy it's almost sad.

Careful, dude. There's probably a rollerblades joke waiting for you.

 

[franklin]

Oh and Roach, before you go on about how cool Norway is, our average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is $7k/year more than Norway. I suppose paying $7k for 4 years is worth a lifetime of $7k more per year.

 

[NAOS]

Also, Scandinavian countries basically don't have to fund a military. A few years ago the average age of a Danish soldier was 42-years old. Their whole system is job safety net. It helps when NATO fronts the vast vast majority of your costs.

 

[NAOS]

I guess someone took their ball and went home.

 

[RandyForRubio]

If basically everyone thinks you're an *******, is that suitable evidence that you actually are an *******? Just curious.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I do think that most executives are paid too much. But are we really going to cry about that when we as sports fan root for teams with guys that make $15 million a year to play basketball for our entertainment? That each team is going to have a cap limit of $100+ million a year soon? I mean, cmon.

We (our government) needs to find more ways to get these rich ******** to spend more money. Like during our little recession they allowed a lot more money to be written off to cover the amount that items decrease in value over their lifetime. This encouraged people to buy lots of equipment, cars, etc. That's an example of good governmental work.

 

[NAOS]

everyone = jazzfanz posters, I presume?

Oh wait, even that equation doesn't work.

Nice new account, whomever you are. That's the brave route to take into this foray.

 

[RandyForRubio]

You know what else would be awesome? Allowing more weight for semi-tractors if they can add more axels. Distributes the weight so we can haul more with equal or less damage to the roads. We already have a shortage of truck drivers in the U.S.

This would help out owners, the drivers themselves (more payload more money), lower freight costs, increase efficiency. Simple stuff that our ****ty government won't realize.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Curious. Why is income inequality something that should be addressed?

Nearly every metric of poor health for any nation is either heavily amplified, or most-correlated to income inequality. I can post studies if you wish-- but literally search "income inequality health" in google scholar and you'll have months-worth of papers to sift through.

Careful there. We're on the verge of someone bringing up the shock-journalism created and fueled widening wealth and income gap myth. Americans are getting poorer donchaknow?

Anytime a pundit brings up income inequality it is quickly dismissed via fear-mongering and "LETS DROP THE CLASS WARFARE STUFF OKAY!?"

Fair enough, lets just get to the heart of its definition. Youre taxing one group of people more than another in order to even out the playing field. I dont disagree with you here, i suppose to what degree is where it gets complicated. Anybody know how much taxation difference is optimal for society? Seems like a slippery slope.

Of course it's complicated-- but just because it's complicated, does it mean we give up altogether, and just settle for what is easiest? Umm, hell no. We pursue what is best, even if it takes the best minds to come up with the solution.

While middle class suck rarely and poor never?
I'm a pretty good dude and I do not mind sharing what I have .. I just don't want the government to take a lion share and inefficiently spend it as they best see fit. If I'm wrong, tough.

Poor inefficient sharing is better than no sharing. And there are literally examples of country after country after country AFTER country that take a 'lion's share' and distribute it with the efficiency that an American government could only dream of. Begs the question-- how?

Some people in every group suck-- my brother is on his way to being quite upper class; I have nothing against rich people. Saying that some suck is a complete fact. Also true of people in every socioeconomic stratum.