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Jody Genessey - no Ante Tomic

That's fine. Frankly, if he's a guy content to not play in the best basketball league in the world I don't think he's cut out to play here anyway.

Would you leave a job where you are at the top of the totem pole to go to the bottom of the totem pole for equal or less money?
 
Lol at the people saying they knew he wasn't coming over. There were many indications pointing to him coming over. Some people just don't like getting their hopes up. Defense mechanism I guess.

LOL back at ya. There were just as many signs pointing to him using the Jazz as a negotiating ploy. Some people just see what they want to see.
 
I think this is really unfair. How many people work for the LDS church at reduced wages because it gives them a sense of fulfillment? Does that mean they aren't "cut out"? How many people have passed up better opportunities to stay close to home? Maybe the guy likes his life, is a star, the money is the same, and wants to enjoy his hard work.

It's not unfair at all. The NBA is the best basketball league in the world, and not by just a little, by a ton. He's a professional basketball player last I looked. This is the pinnacle of his profession, and he's choosing not to try it out when he has the opportunity.
 
Would you leave a job where you are at the top of the totem pole to go to the bottom of the totem pole for equal or less money?

I don't know. Some people prefer being a big fish in a small pond. It depends how competitive I was. However, I would admit my limitations if I choose that path. I personally hate large corporations and would never want to work for one, but I get that up front.

But my job isn't all that analogous to the sports world. I don't care to ever work for a Big 4 Accounting firm, and I don't care to ever be known as one of the best accountants in the world. If my "draft rights" were held by KPMG I would have told them ages ago I'm not going. I'm fine working for my mid sized company. But I get that I'm not cut out for that world, and I'm content with it.
 
Yes, trading for the national player of the year for a position of need would indeed be horrible. Maybe no Tomic will end up being a big break if it causes us to get someone better. Glass is half full right?

So you think the Jazz should draft Trey Burke....I mean, Frank Kaminsky?
 
I don't think the source has the above correct. Most leagues/teams in Europe pay the player's taxes, and it was reported that part of the reason he was considering leaving was because he wanted 2.2 million, and that would cost the team close to 6 million with the tax hit.

I highly doubt he went from threatening to come to the U.S. if he didn't pocket 2.2 million, then gladly accepted a lot less than that.

I'd bet he will pocket 2.5-3 million after taxes, which means it's a 5-6 million dollar deal.

yeah, the spanish newspaper messed up the numbers. he will receive 2.5-3 million net of taxes
 
I don't think the source has the above correct. Most leagues/teams in Europe pay the player's taxes, and it was reported that part of the reason he was considering leaving was because he wanted 2.2 million, and that would cost the team close to 6 million with the tax hit.

I highly doubt he went from threatening to come to the U.S. if he didn't pocket 2.2 million, then gladly accepted a lot less than that.

I'd bet he will pocket 2.5-3 million after taxes, which means it's a 5-6 million dollar deal.

Man, he must have not wanted to come to Utah as I would be pretty certain that his deal with the Jazz would have been more than $2.2m. I would have guessed he would get in the $5m+ range per season to come over, similar to what Mirotic got. His wife must really like Spain as he left about $10m on the table.
 
Am I the only one that is happy with this? I know this dude well because I am from Europe. Sure he is skilled like hell but I doubt he can play in the NBA. Too soft, has the body of a 12 years old kid. Imagine him playing against Cousins or D12. He could literally die trying to defend these guys. Best center in Europe? Probably. But it's easy... Nenad Krstic returned from the NBA jobless and became the Euroleague MVP ffs. Still Tomic could have contributed off the bench but at a big price. So I am happy with him not coming over.
 
I don't know. Some people prefer being a big fish in a small pond. It depends how competitive I was. However, I would admit my limitations if I choose that path. I personally hate large corporations and would never want to work for one, but I get that up front.

But my job isn't all that analogous to the sports world. I don't care to ever work for a Big 4 Accounting firm, and I don't care to ever be known as one of the best accountants in the world. If my "draft rights" were held by KPMG I would have told them ages ago I'm not going. I'm fine working for my mid sized company. But I get that I'm not cut out for that world, and I'm content with it.

So, you're not cut out for big time accounting? You're not striving to be the best accountant you can be? Basically, what you're saying is that you are the Ante Tomic of the accounting world?
 
"What you heard when he was with Real Madrid is that he didn't like basketball enough, that this was just a job for him," an Eastern Conference scout told HoopsHype. "Also that in practice he would just put in the minimum effort required, he wouldn't do extra work there. Maybe that was not a good situation for him, but he's adjusted better to Barcelona and I believe he's matured a lot as a player. I think his progress has been more a matter of better attitude that actual skills development."

"He has so much talent offensively, his passing is a great asset for any team and that's the thing I like the most about him," the Eastern Conference scout said. "But defensively he's straight soft. He's a hole there."

A Western Conference scout agreed that the soft label that has been attached to him is there for a reason: "He's definitely on the soft end of the spectrum. It’s extremely rare to see him dunking the ball, which is pretty uncommon for a 7-foot-2 and relatively athletic guy. Defensively, he looks a bit stiff and is pretty underwhelming when it comes to using his great length to intimidate."


Some quotes to make us feel better, if he really is that much of a liability on the defensive end and he doesn't have the fire to play the game, then I'm glad he didn't come over.
 
So, you're not cut out for big time accounting? You're not striving to be the best accountant you can be? Basically, what you're saying is that you are the Ante Tomic of the accounting world?

Possibly. I'm fine with that too. The last thing I want in the world is to work for a large corporation.

Competitiveness isn't the most important trait in the world for an accountant. It is for a basketball player.
 
Man, he must have not wanted to come to Utah as I would be pretty certain that his deal with the Jazz would have been more than $2.2m. I would have guessed he would get in the $5m+ range per season to come over, similar to what Mirotic got. His wife must really like Spain as he left about $10m on the table.

He didn't leave any money on the table. He'd have to make 6 million per year here to equal 3 million there. So, he will have the same money.

That's why i said this:

Why would leave one company where you are at the top of the totem pole (Tomic in Europe) to get paid less to be at the bottom of the totem pole (Tomic in the U.S.)?
 
Am I the only one that is happy with this? I know this dude well because I am from Europe. Sure he is skilled like hell but I doubt he can play in the NBA. Too soft, has the body of a 12 years old kid. Imagine him playing against Cousins or D12. He could literally die trying to defend these guys. Best center in Europe? Probably. But it's easy... Nenad Krstic returned from the NBA jobless and became the Euroleague MVP ffs. Still Tomic could have contributed off the bench but at a big price. So I am happy with him not coming over.


I said in another thread that I'd rather have Boom Bitches than Tomic.
 
Possibly. I'm fine with that too. The last thing I want in the world is to work for a large corporation.

Competitiveness isn't the most important trait in the world for an accountant. It is for a basketball player.


I disagree. Competitiveness is very alive in accounting. Maybe Tomic feels the same about basketball as you do for accounting. Maybe he stays in Europe for all the same reasons you stay at your job.

Like I said, it's unfair for you to bag on him, when you are doing the same things he is doing.
 
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