Rumor: Jazz want to - and can - acquire Milsap. May trade Favors in draft day deal.

[Siro]

I don't know, if I'm in media, and a guy in a sports organization, even if he contributes zero to the decision making arm, tells me he/she hears that they could be open to trading x player to facilitate free agent player signing with the team, even if it DOESN'T make sense, I'm reporting it.

Trying to substantiate said rumor is pretty dumb. So many things would never, ever be reported if that were the case, especially in the context of sports.

Do you not watch The Newsroom? Reporting on a rumor is not an innocuous and inconsequential action. I respect that Mr. Genessy believes the source to be reliable, but he should still try to get confirmation from a second source before reporting it. Favors is a real person with a real career and real emotions. Being subjected to unsubstantiated trade rumors time and time again when he's shown nothing but utmost loyalty to the club must be frustrating.

 

[franklin]

How does Millsap fit next to Anthony Davis?

 

[stitches]

How does Millsap fit next to Anthony Davis?

They don't! We might need to play Millsap at the 3... or he can come off the bench.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I stopped reading DJ's stuff a while ago and unfollowed him on Twitter because his Jazz game recaps started to take on the feel of some sort of stand up comedy audition. While some of the personal stuff he's reported on has been courageous, all I really want is a beat writer to report back to me on the goings on with my favorite NBA team. DJ tries to insert a lot of DJ into what should simply be him reporting on the Utah Jazz.

In short, I'm no fan, but even I think the poor guy is taking a beating in this thread.

This goes into a whole new topic but the problem I see is that the D News doesn't have a dedicated Jazz beat reporter twitter. I don't know if the @DJJazzyJody handle is a personal account used for work, or a professional type opinion handle like @tjonessltrib used for opinion AND reporting at times. It's certainly not the dedicated beat handle that @tribjazz is.

Becomes annoying to me because, and this isn't necessarily fault of the individual(s) behind the account, but back when Smith and the other guy I can't remember (when to law school in the northwest) were beat writers, we got SO much more information Jazz related. Oram made the account more of a blogger type and there has seemingly been a lot fewer tweets from Falk (missing entire road trips) that turned the Tribunes BEAT WRITER twitter dormant for long stretches of the Jazz season (have someone else use the account while he's off). Feels like cost cutting to me.

But anyway, this isn't even about the scope of the twitter account. I don't care for the @DJJazzyJody handle that much either because of the percentage of Jazz related information isn't 100%, though, as someone who in the broadest AND smallest sense of the word is a professional entertainer, I can relate to the issue of working the difference of being viewed for what I do versus who I am.

However, that part is irrelevant in the long run as this tweet was a beat reporter on the beat tweeting something pretty much any beat reporter would report while on the beat.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Do you not watch The Newsroom? Reporting on a rumor is not an innocuous and inconsequential action. I respect that Mr. Genessy believes the source to be reliable, but he should still try to get confirmation from a second source before reporting it. Favors is a real person with a real career and real emotions. Being subjected to unsubstantiated trade rumors time and time again when he's shown nothing but utmost loyalty to the club must be frustrating.

It is not the job of media to spare feelings. SLTrib is not a Jazz run medium. Favors played in the freakin' New York market, where players of his type are under trade rumor scrutiny 5 times a week.

Is it the media's job in Utah to ONLY disseminate information about the Jazz after it's been filtered by the Jazz?

(If I was supposed to read the above NOT at face value, then apologies)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Do you not watch The Newsroom? Reporting on a rumor is not an innocuous and inconsequential action. I respect that Mr. Genessy believes the source to be reliable, but he should still try to get confirmation from a second source before reporting it. Favors is a real person with a real career and real emotions. Being subjected to unsubstantiated trade rumors time and time again when he's shown nothing but utmost loyalty to the club must be frustrating.

Dude, I think Favors is a grown *** man. I think he can handle some rumors.

 

[[size/HUGE] boobs [/size]]

Dude, I think Favors is a grown *** man. I think he can handle some rumors.

Tough guy act. You two will cry like babies if this rumor everyday says you will be fired for underperforming your counterpart at Taco Bell.

 

[[size/HUGE] boobs [/size]]

Look guys this is simple. Reporters take oath like hypocrat ic oath or something. They promise two things. Do not injure peoples with reporting and report only truth. Jennessy broke both commandments. Because he is on pot he has no integrity.

 

[Maneesh]

I'm convinced you're a troll alt account, but regardless of whether or not that's true, you're officially my least favorite poster on JazzFanz, claiming the title that had been held for so long by Hotnickkk. His posts have the advantage of being interesting reads, whereas yours are just moronic.

LOL..Kissass. Ohhh noooss you don't like me? I like you. I like everyone except JazzsneakerChina

 

[da ThRONe]

Sure, but does Jody work for the Enquirer or a publication that seeks to report the news honestly and accurately? I didn't think he was a gossip columnist. May be he should have added a qualifier, like an unreliable source, or unsubstantiated source. And anyone who follows the Jazz would know this is utter b.s., and Jody is one of those, yet he reports it and because he's a reporter people believe it. Is that good, honest journalism? Sure he can report it, but like I said I don't think it was a good call on his part.

The problem is no outsider knows if this was BS or not. That is an assumption. If you take him at his word he heard a potential situation from a source he trust. Clearly said source was OK with him talking about it via twitter. Trades are contingent on some many things and the vast majority don't ever materialize.

 

[Maneesh]

People here are so pathetic.

If you don't like it go smoke some pit!

 

[Maneesh]

Look guys this is simple. Reporters take oath like hypocrat ic oath or something. They promise two things. Do not injure peoples with reporting and report only truth. Jennessy broke both commandments. Because he is on pot he has no integrity.

If he not smokes it so much we can stop talk trade NUMBER ONE HERO FAVORS!!!!

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

It is not the job of media to spare feelings. SLTrib is not a Jazz run medium. Favors played in the freakin' New York market, where players of his type are under trade rumor scrutiny 5 times a week.

Is it the media's job in Utah to ONLY disseminate information about the Jazz after it's been filtered by the Jazz?

(If I was supposed to read the above NOT at face value, then apologies)

Very goods points. That being said, while the Trib is not here to pander to the Jazz and their emotions, there are still ethics that are supposed to be followed. While DJ doesn't owe anything to Favors personally, imagine if somebody from the DNews tweeted out that he has an inside source at the Trib, and he's heard that they feel like they can/might replace DJ with somebody from another paper who fits their direction better. While the DNews reporter wouldn't technically be doing anything wrong it doesn't mean that it was ethical or done in good taste.

DJ also has to be careful not to alienate the Jazz. How many of these "rumors" can a beat writer throw against the wall before the Jazz organization gets pissed and starts to close off DJ's access to players and information in an effort to protect their employees? How eager is Favors going to be to give DJ an open and honest interview? Imo, mutual trust with the Jazz is the lifeblood of Jody's job as a beat writer. Without it, he really can't give us anymore info that we can find ourselves.

 

[str8line]

I was just thinking the same thing. I can't imagine the Jazz are happy about a unsubstantiated trade rumor about a guy who might be their best player in the coming years.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Very goods points. That being said, while the Trib is not here to pander to the Jazz and their emotions, there are still ethics that are supposed to be followed. While DJ doesn't owe anything to Favors personally, imagine if somebody from the DNews tweeted out that he has an inside source at the Trib, and he's heard that they feel like they can/might replace DJ with somebody from another paper who fits their direction better. While the DNews reporter wouldn't technically be doing anything wrong it doesn't mean that it was ethical or done in good taste.

How is relaying any information given to him by an individual within an organization unethical? Seriously? He's media. His source KNOWS that telling a beat writer ANYTHING means you're telling EVERYBODY. As for the example, is there ANYTHING that can be reported that might not sour feelings on somebody? Would reporting that the Jazz would take Trey Lyles before it happen be unethical becuase it might hurt Trevor Booker's feelings?

DJ also has to be careful not to alienate the Jazz. How many of these "rumors" can a beat writer throw against the wall before the Jazz organization gets pissed and starts to close off DJ's access to players and information in an effort to protect their employees? How eager is Favors going to be to give DJ an open and honest interview? Imo, mutual trust with the Jazz is the lifeblood of Jody's job as a beat writer. Without it, he really can't give us anymore info that we can find ourselves.

I hope you're not advocating that beat reporters be nothing but Ahmad Rashads. If Jazz cut off access to a major media outlet because of its beat reporter reporting on his/her sources, they'd be CRUCIFIED. There have been several incidents particular with major college football teams and the school newspaper where the teams have been raked across the coals because of limiting access due to said media not conforming with the information that football coach wants to release. Earlier this year, the Cincinnati Reds' coach went on an insane and inane rant about the media reporting. He's essentially a laughingstock now.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I was just thinking the same thing. I can't imagine the Jazz are happy about a unsubstantiated trade rumor about a guy who might be their best player in the coming years.

I'm the sure the Jazz are going love to call it unsubstantiated, even if it isn't.

Though they'll take the same line they'll always take, which is they don't comment on rumor or speculation. Nothing will be any different and we'll move on.

 

[str8line]

I'm the sure the Jazz are going love to call it unsubstantiated, even if it isn't.

Though they'll take the same line they'll always take, which is they don't comment on rumor or speculation. Nothing will be any different and we'll move on.

True.

The thing is, a trade rumor regarding Trey Burke would make a ton of sense and a trade rumor regarding Favors makes absolutely none. I mean, who are you going to trade Favors for? Just about the only people I would trade Favors for are superstars. Favors is improving and super young. He could still become an all-time great. And who is going to give up a superstar?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

True.

The thing is, a trade rumor regarding Trey Burke would make a ton of sense and a trade rumor regarding Favors makes absolutely none. I mean, who are you going to trade Favors for? Just about the only people I would trade Favors for are superstars. Favors is improving and super young. He could still become an all-time great. And who is going to give up a superstar?

It makes a ton of sense. The team that receives the call is always in the better position than the team making the call. Leaks out that the Jazz could trade Favors, teams may call them instead of the Jazz calling teams about Burke. Jazz could then lead into talks about Burke instead of Favors.

 

[[size/HUGE] boobs [/size]]

How is relaying any information given to him by an individual within an organization unethical? Seriously? He's media. His source KNOWS that telling a beat writer ANYTHING means you're telling EVERYBODY. As for the example, is there ANYTHING that can be reported that might not sour feelings on somebody? Would reporting that the Jazz would take Trey Lyles before it happen be unethical becuase it might hurt Trevor Booker's feelings?



I hope you're not advocating that beat reporters be nothing but Ahmad Rashads. If Jazz cut off access to a major media outlet because of its beat reporter reporting on his/her sources, they'd be CRUCIFIED. There have been several incidents particular with major college football teams and the school newspaper where the teams have been raked across the coals because of limiting access due to said media not conforming with the information that football coach wants to release. Earlier this year, the Cincinnati Reds' coach went on an insane and inane rant about the media reporting. He's essentially a laughingstock now.

People like you defending bad reporting are the reason US media has become laughing stock to the world.

Jennessy even backtracked to basically admit he did not have a source after his obvious plot holes were pointed to like that Jazz cannot even talk to Millsap. Why you are last person in world defending him? Let him learn his lesson. We know he reads this forum.

 

[fishonjazz]