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George Hill coming to Utah

The Exum hype is a little over the top. In my mind, he is a rookie again. The first few months will be just shaking off rust. Then you have the mental obstacle of getting over the ACL which can be much longer. I don't see a real strong season, but am still optimistic in the long run he can be a great point guard.

Which is why the 30 year old Hill is a perfect fit. He is very similar to what Exum can become. It will create continuity. Exum might not take over for another 4 or 5 years. That's ok. He will still only be about Hoods age and will hopefully have loads of playoff experience. This is how you win now and build something that will last.
 
Honestly, I think Hill is a top 15 PG. A guy like that definitely gets us to 50 wins...I mean, look who we've been running out there at PG. will he be a star? Of course not, but he will be incredibly vital.

I so hope you're right. I'd love that.
 
FTR- cause a lot of you like to misconstrue my thoughts, I think Exum still has superstar potential. But, that's 3+ years off. Hill will be the starter. I've been told the Jazz brass think Exum will earn the starting job come Jan or Feb. I think that's a little optimistic.
 
Remember how DL always like to model our team on the 2004 Detroit Championship team? (a well balanced team with no real star, but build on defensive prowess)



- Hill is like our Chauncey (i.e., steady at the point & shoots 3 at a high level).

- Hood is like our Rip (not as crafty, yet, but a better 3pt shooter)

- Hayward is better than Prince IMO

- Favors is no where near as good offensively as 'Sheed though

- Gobert certainly has Ben Wallace's defensive potential
 
I so hope you're right. I'd love that.

This year, while having a small role, he was 17th in rpm among point guards. Last year, when he had his increased role, he was 7th. Dude put up 16/5/4 in 29 minutes a game just one year ago, and then they dashed his usage down. He can perform, just needs the chance. And he has great playoff numbers...he's just a steady, consistent gamer who has won pretty much everywhere he's been. We've needed a guy like him.
 
The Exum hype is a little over the top. In my mind, he is a rookie again. The first few months will be just shaking off rust. Then you have the mental obstacle of getting over the ACL which can be much longer.

What do you think that Exum is a dumbass...he hurt is acl,not his brain or heart. He's already been a starter and his team won....you think he forgot what he did to contribute.Exum wasn't sitting on the couch watching tv this past year,he was sitting in the front row seats scouting out opposing PG's.like a coach does.

As far as the mental weakness part,I'm sure he knows Jabari Parker was playing back in the NBA under a years time and scored his career high 36 pts in 14 1/2 months after surgery.He's 20 years old and already doing 5 on 5 scrimmages with 4 more FULL months to get over his mental weakness.
 
I hope Exum has a breakout year, but I don't think its going to happen. I really like the kid and I want him to be great. He just seemed so timid his rookie year. He was reluctant to do anything other than passing the ball off along the perimeter and taking open catch and shoot threes. He rarely tried taking anyone off the dribble, even when they closed out hard on him at the three point line. He just wasn't much of a playmaker. With that being said, he wasn't turnover prone and played under control and with patience. He had a couple give and go plays and a few lobs that impressed. For those who think he is going to be great/elite - what parts of his game improve? Is he a three and D point guard? Is he Shaun Livingston without the minutes restriction?

On the other side of the ball, I think most were impressed with his defensive ability. His defensive presence was contrasted against Burke's and the difference was night and day. Players had a hard time getting past him and he was great at challenging shots off the dribble. He is already an above average defensive point guard. Does he become an even better defender?
 
I hope Exum has a breakout year, but I don't think its going to happen. I really like the kid and I want him to be great. He just seemed so timid his rookie year. He was reluctant to do anything other than passing the ball off along the perimeter and taking open catch and shoot threes. He rarely tried taking anyone off the dribble, even when they closed out hard on him at the three point line. He just wasn't much of a playmaker. With that being said, he wasn't turnover prone and played under control and with patience. He had a couple give and go plays and a few lobs that impressed. For those who think he is going to be great/elite - what parts of his game improve? Is he a three and D point guard? Is he Shaun Livingston without the minutes restriction?

On the other side of the ball, I think most were impressed with his defensive ability. His defensive presence was contrasted against Burke's and the difference was night and day. Players had a hard time getting past him and he was great at challenging shots off the dribble. He is already an above average defensive point guard. Does he become an even better defender?

I don't see it as just timidness. I see afraid to make mistakes as well. Dante seems like the perfection type of player, doesn't want to look bad. Not sure what's what. But if that one game against Smart is any indication, I hope the coaching staff allows him to let that monster loose.
 
Looks like Lin set the floor at $12M/year for Hill if we are going to resign him. I fully expect Hill to blossom here in Utah and I think his numbers are going to exceed what he had in Indiana.

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Looks like Lin set the floor at $12M/year for Hill if we are going to resign him. I fully expect Hill to blossom here in Utah and I think his numbers are going to exceed what he had in Indiana.

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I think hill could barely get off the bench for the jazz.

Edit: was thinking solomon hill.
 
Did we ever find out what all the particulars of the Hill trade are supposed to be? I saw the Hawks were busy scooping Dwight Howard's numb nuttery, and it renewed my interest in what the final pieces were going to be.
 
Did we ever find out what all the particulars of the Hill trade are supposed to be? I saw the Hawks were busy scooping Dwight Howard's numb nuttery, and it renewed my interest in what the final pieces were going to be.

It is to be announced July 7th. Further pieces to the trade are speculation.
 
What do you think that Exum is a dumbass...he hurt is acl,not his brain or heart. He's already been a starter and his team won....you think he forgot what he did to contribute.Exum wasn't sitting on the couch watching tv this past year,he was sitting in the front row seats scouting out opposing PG's.like a coach does.

As far as the mental weakness part,I'm sure he knows Jabari Parker was playing back in the NBA under a years time and scored his career high 36 pts in 14 1/2 months after surgery.He's 20 years old and already doing 5 on 5 scrimmages with 4 more FULL months to get over his mental weakness.

Remember that Derrick Rose guy? He never got over the mental weakness part. Exum could be ready by the start of the season, he could be ready by the all star break, he could take a whole 'nother year to be ready, or he could never be ready.


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Remember that Derrick Rose guy? He never got over the mental weakness part. Exum could be ready by the start of the season, he could be ready by the all star break, he could take a whole 'nother year to be ready, or he could never be ready.


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I feel like rose issue was more physical than mental
 
Didn't he miss a year then get injured in his first game back the next year or something close to that?


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he took forever to come back and actually play games even tho he'd been cleared and was practicing ... very much a mental thing
 
But at least rose was fearless and aggressive pre injury.
 
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