Rumor: Jazz and DeMarcus Cousins
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Kyoto
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stop being a tool
Obviously a damn fine carpenter.
Malone wasn't a loose cannon, he has a few screws loose. DMC has a DGAF attitude. It's different.
ncoloradojazz
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DMC didn't get a 13 year old pregnant while he was at Kentucky either like Karl did when in college.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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gregbroncs
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I'd trade Gobert before Favors. I have 0 interest in Cousins though. I'd not trade either Favors or Gobert for Cousins because I believe chemistry matters in basketball and Cousins will never have chemistry with any players because he's a selfish bitch on the court.
gregbroncs
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for the #1 draft pick.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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For the 16 #1 pick, hell ya. I don't know enough about next year to say yes or no
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'17 is waaaaay better than '16. '18 seems to be close to '17, early.
green
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Talent wins titles. Not a bunch of role players with great chemistry. At some point the Jazz need to quit hoping Gobert and Favors and Hood, etc become stars and use those assets to get stars.
The only stars Utah will have access to will be stars with warts. But the simple reality is Cousins is a much, much, much, much better player than Gobert. And while Gobert will most likely be overpaid for most of his career, if you can tap into Cousins attitude, Cousins will be underpaid for most of his career.
Would you rather overpay for a player that is amazing on one side of the court and hopeless on the other or underpay a player that is quite possibly top 5 on one side of the court and top 10 on the other?
Chargers Jazz Angels
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If the jazz could add cousins for either gobert or favors the jazz front office would be stupid not to take the trade.
As for nosactown i woukd see the wanting favors over gobert and hete is why. They draft wcs to play next to cousins. They signed koufas in the offseason. Then they drafted that euro kid this year.
They are still weak at the 4 and pairing favors with wcs gives the kings a similar front court to what the jazz have.
If i was divac i would ask for Favors, burks and mack. I would offer cousins and mclemore in trade. (mclemore has seriously under performed)
I dont think draft picks would even need to be used. I would give up a second or 2 if i was the jazz but this trade instantly makes the kings better.
The kings would look like this next year
Collinson, mack, temple
Burks, afflolo, richardson
Gay, butler, cassipi
Favors, skal, tollinver
Wcs, koufas, papagianisis
They have a lot of versatility with that line up. They actually have a decent team except at the pg spot. They also lack shooting.
The jazz on the other hand would probably prefer richardson in the trade but mclemore would be ok for the 4th or 5th wing off the bench.
Hill, exum, neto
Hood, mclemore
Hayward, johnson, ingles
Cousins, lyles, bolomboy
Gobert, withey, pleiss
Again great versatility with cousins sliding overto play center with lyles. I know the argument thete isnt enough room down low with gobert and cousins. The defender on gobert will slough off him to double team. I am not as worried because it would be the same thing with favors except cousins is an ok shooter and will make teams pay down low.
Cousins would need to become a better passer and cut down on turn overs but with the jazz he wont have to do everything.
I would love this trade and i think winning would be a huge cure for what ails cousins. Everything i have read is when he is in a winning situation he is an awesome teammate.
I know this will not happen and nosactown will be kicking themselves when they get nothing for cousins in the future.
As for nosactown i woukd see the wanting favors over gobert and hete is why. They draft wcs to play next to cousins. They signed koufas in the offseason. Then they drafted that euro kid this year.
They are still weak at the 4 and pairing favors with wcs gives the kings a similar front court to what the jazz have.
If i was divac i would ask for Favors, burks and mack. I would offer cousins and mclemore in trade. (mclemore has seriously under performed)
I dont think draft picks would even need to be used. I would give up a second or 2 if i was the jazz but this trade instantly makes the kings better.
The kings would look like this next year
Collinson, mack, temple
Burks, afflolo, richardson
Gay, butler, cassipi
Favors, skal, tollinver
Wcs, koufas, papagianisis
They have a lot of versatility with that line up. They actually have a decent team except at the pg spot. They also lack shooting.
The jazz on the other hand would probably prefer richardson in the trade but mclemore would be ok for the 4th or 5th wing off the bench.
Hill, exum, neto
Hood, mclemore
Hayward, johnson, ingles
Cousins, lyles, bolomboy
Gobert, withey, pleiss
Again great versatility with cousins sliding overto play center with lyles. I know the argument thete isnt enough room down low with gobert and cousins. The defender on gobert will slough off him to double team. I am not as worried because it would be the same thing with favors except cousins is an ok shooter and will make teams pay down low.
Cousins would need to become a better passer and cut down on turn overs but with the jazz he wont have to do everything.
I would love this trade and i think winning would be a huge cure for what ails cousins. Everything i have read is when he is in a winning situation he is an awesome teammate.
I know this will not happen and nosactown will be kicking themselves when they get nothing for cousins in the future.
Maneesh
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What this nosactown?
Miggs
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A decent team? That team blows. Collison isn't starter material. WCS pretty much blows. Gay is a perennial loser. Burks is a fringe starter. That's a 20-25 win team.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Nosactown goes back a while about an add the maloufs selling the team to seattle. It had some deflated basketballs on it.
Well it is a play that the kings have no balls. If they have no ball sack either.
Hence NO SAC TOWN
Well it is a play that the kings have no balls. If they have no ball sack either.
Hence NO SAC TOWN
You severely undervalue Gobert. He's an elite defender. If he's healthy and the team is good, he will be a perennial defensive player of the year candidate. How can a player like that be overpaid?
gregbroncs
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Chemistry matters in basketball. Cousins has a very real possibility of destroying the chemistry of any team he's on. I don't want him. Not at all. Name the last "best center in the league" who played on perennial losers. Talent wise the guy has it. But talent isn't everything and he's a problem for team chemistry.