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Jones is taller and a more natural scorer/ball-handler. Leonard is a better athlete and a better perimeter defender. Leonard is also something of a rebounding prodigy.

Hmm- they are very, very close in my book.

For me though, Jones is more well-rounded because of his outside shooting (Leonard came in at an abysmal 29.1%) and ability to block shots (1.9 per game).
 
I think the Lamar Odom comparisons for T. Jones are valid. He's like a Lamar Odom (with a somewhat tighter handle), including how he winds up for his jumper and how he shoots it selectively. However, I think Jones is less of a pot head and has a more consistent motor, making him really active and dangerous at both ends.

Except Jones is not nearly as tall and long as Odom in my estimation. I'd go far as saying Odom as 3-4 inches on him in standing reach.
 
Here is my personal mock draft:

1. Minnesota | Kyrie Irving | 6-2 | 180 | PG | Duke | 19

2. Cleveland | Derrick Williams | 6-9 | 241 | SF/PF | Arizona | 19

3. Toronto | Enes Kanter | 6-11 | 261 | PF/C | Kentucky | 18

4. Washington | Jan Vesely | 6-11 | 230 | SF/PF | Czech Republic | 20

5. Sacramento | Kemba Walker | 6-0 | 172 | PG | UConn | 20

6. Utah | Bismack Biyombo | 6-9 | 243 | PF | Congo | 18

7. Detroit | Brandon Knight | 6-3 | 185 | PG/SG | Kentucky | 19

8. Cleveland | Jimmer Fredette | 6-2 | 195 | PG | BYU | 22

9. Charlotte | Alec Burks | 6-6 | 191 | PG/SG | Colorado | 19

10. Milwaukee | Terrence Jones | 6-8 | 244 | SF | Kentucky | 19

11. Golden St. | Jonas Valanciunas | 6-11 | 240 | C | Lithuania | 18

12. Utah | Klay Thompson | 6-6 | 202 | SG | Washington State | 21

13. Phoenix | Kenneth Faried | 6-8 | 225 | PF | Morehead St. | 21

14. Houston | Donatas Motiejunas | 7-0 | 224 | PF | Lithuania | 20

I'd be very happy with Bimbo at #6. I hate to say this but it's also probably a positive that he's from Africa. SLC won't necessarily feel like a boring hell to him like perhaps much of the league's players feel it is. In other words, our ability to re-sign him may be greater than our ability to re-sign someone else who's Deron-like.
 
PGs can win championships

PG's don't win championships

Your comment is perhaps biased from recent history, thinking of the Lakers and Bulls "dynasties", however, the rest of NBA history would prove otherwise.

Other recent champions had all-star level PGs, for example:
Tony Parker, MVP of 2006/2007 championship and instrumental in others
Chauncy, MVP of 2003/2004 championship MVP

(I'll exclude DWade since I consider him more of a SG and also Rondo because when they won the championship he was not the allstar he is today.)


Looking deeper into NBA history, the landscape is littered with dominant PG champions, for example, the first 3 Hall of Famers and the next 3 "borderline" HOF:
Magic Johnson
Oscar Robertsons
Isiah Thomas
Dennis Johnson, 3 championships w/3 teams, one championship MVP with Seattle
Mo Cheeks
Jo Jo White (MVP in 1975/76 championship)
 
I'd be very happy with Bimbo at #6. I hate to say this but it's also probably a positive that he's from Africa. SLC won't necessarily feel like a boring hell to him like perhaps much of the league's players feel it is. In other words, our ability to re-sign him may be greater than our ability to re-sign someone else who's Deron-like.

Why? Because Africa is a great heart of darkness without a single lively metropolis? Get a ****ing clue guy, and please stop teaching children.
 
Wow such hate. Take a Prozac and step away from the edge NAOS. I think he has a valid point.

post count: 193. They might all be excellent posts, but you haven't been around very long. This guy has been uncorking beauties since the days of Serpico.
 
Your comment is perhaps biased from recent history, thinking of the Lakers and Bulls "dynasties", however, the rest of NBA history would prove otherwise.

Other recent champions had all-star level PGs, for example:
Tony Parker, MVP of 2006/2007 championship and instrumental in others
Chauncy, MVP of 2003/2004 championship MVP

(I'll exclude DWade since I consider him more of a SG and also Rondo because when they won the championship he was not the allstar he is today.)


Looking deeper into NBA history, the landscape is littered with dominant PG champions, for example, the first 3 Hall of Famers and the next 3 "borderline" HOF:
Magic Johnson
Oscar Robertsons
Isiah Thomas
Dennis Johnson, 3 championships w/3 teams, one championship MVP with Seattle
Mo Cheeks
Jo Jo White (MVP in 1975/76 championship)

****ing THANK YOU.

And to repeat - because it cannot be said enough times or emphatically enough - WHEN WE HAVE MICHAEL JORDAN OR KOBE BRYANT WE CAN AFFORD DEREK FISHER OR STEVE KERR TO BE PGS. Since those players never get traded and Utah would never hope to get one in free agency, it comes down to the draft. So who the **** is the next greatest player of all time at the wing or at C in this draft? Come back to reality, some of you.

Irving is the best prospect in this draft and it isn't even close.
 
Right now in the NBA it is the battle of the pgs! If we get lucky in the lottery we will take the BPA and since he is a pg with tons of upside he can help us compete with all the other great pgs in the league right now.
 
Donatas Motiejunas has declared for the NBA Draft, that makes the draft a little bit stronger, my question to all of you is if we are considering Biyombo at #6 to be a power forward why aren't we considering Motiejunas at #6 or even at #12? Motiejunas is 7'0, needs to gain some weight being on 224 lbs, but he has huge potential being an offensive player. Runs the floor great, needs to get better defensively not much though, and people are comparing him to Dirk Nowitzki.
 
Donatas Motiejunas has declared for the NBA Draft, that makes the draft a little bit stronger, my question to all of you is if we are considering Biyombo at #6 to be a power forward why aren't we considering Motiejunas at #6 or even at #12? Motiejunas is 7'0, needs to gain some weight being on 224 lbs, but he has huge potential being an offensive player. Runs the floor great, needs to get better defensively not much though, and people are comparing him to Dirk Nowitzki.

Probably because Biyombo seems like a sure thing to be at least a defensive/rebounding presence. Motiejunas seems to have a high bust potential.
 
Donatas looks really great offensively. And I read he's really cocky which is good too. But it seems I read that he isn't very interested in defense.
I was really excited about him in last year's draft before he pulled out. Someone wanna refute the knock on his defense? Does his offensive talent translate to wins?
 
Donatas looks really great offensively. And I read he's really cocky which is good too. But it seems I read that he isn't very interested in defense.
I was really excited about him in last year's draft before he pulled out. Someone wanna refute the knock on his defense? Does his offensive talent translate to wins?

Again bentley spot on about the defense.
 
I think i'll be the first person to vocalize support for Kawhi Leonard. He's got that sort of length and athleticism that would be perfect at the small forward spot. Honestly he seems like the safest bet to me, non-bust status.
 
Jrue Holiday is another good PG found @ 17.

If we're picking @ #6 we better not take a PG.

Think size.

We can look @ points @ #12. Or we can just ride Harris and Earl and Hayward next year and think PG next year.
 
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