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Following potential 2017 draftees...

White Chocolate said:
Seriously, he basically averaged a double-double w/ 1.6 blocks in 26 minutes a game. He's also younger than some of the freshman and only a few months older than most of them.

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Not to mention the points per game in that double-double was 19.2.

His per 40 numbers are absolutely insane:

28.8 PPG, 14.8 RPG, 2.4 BPG w/ 1 SPG.

He also shot 75% from the free-throw line. His per 40 FTA per game was 10 too. He gets to the line a lot for being a power forward and knocks down the free-throws.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He has different physical limitations than Kanter. He has a small frame w/ a weak wingspan for a player who is going to rely on stuff around the basket. He has the same lack of awareness on the court and that is really what hamstrings Kanter more than anything.
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I agree... was speaking more in terms of athletic limitations. I think he has the ability to develop a jump shot. He's a guy that if he adds a jump shot or figures things out with experience could be a really high ceiling player. The IQ stuff worries me more than the physical limitations or shot... he will get smarter, but that stuff seems to be more in a player's DNA. At worst I think he's an energy big that can provide additional scoring bunch. I also like guys that set good screens... under rated part of evaluating big guys imo.

I just wonder more in overall terms if everyone conforms to small playmaking 4s or if the way to combat that is to abuse them in the post.
 
White Chocolate said:
Not to mention the points per game in that double-double was 19.2.

His per 40 numbers are absolutely insane:

28.8 PPG, 14.8 RPG, 2.4 BPG w/ 1 SPG.

He also shot 75% from the free-throw line. His per 40 FTA per game was 10 too. He gets to the line a lot for being a power forward and knocks down the free-throws.

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High activity big... maybe he could be the red bull to Trey Lyles' Melatonin.
 
Catchall said:
I still like Jonah Bolden. I think physically he's Larry Nance and he has a decent offensive arsenal with sweet jump shot.
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We just need to darft the eff out of everyone.
 
White Chocolate said:
Not to mention the points per game in that double-double was 19.2.

His per 40 numbers are absolutely insane:

28.8 PPG, 14.8 RPG, 2.4 BPG w/ 1 SPG.

He also shot 75% from the free-throw line. His per 40 FTA per game was 10 too. He gets to the line a lot for being a power forward and knocks down the free-throws.

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His numbers are insane, but you have to try and project what he is in the NBA. To just assume he'll "figure his role out" would be irresponsible.
He probably won't work out for the Jazz being we're at 24. So they won't be able to run him through some Jazz specific sets to see how he reacts and handles it.
You have to pass the ball in the NBA, so his 0.5 assists are a red flag.
 
Jazz4ever said:
His numbers are insane, but you have to try and project what he is in the NBA. To just assume he'll "figure his role out" would be irresponsible.
He probably won't work out for the Jazz being we're at 24. So they won't be able to run him through some Jazz specific sets to see how he reacts and handles it.
You have to pass the ball in the NBA, so his 0.5 assists are a red flag.
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I'd be surprised if he doesn't at least carve out a Faried type of role in the NBA. His FT% is also promising for his prospects as a shooter. I don't think his whole game will be predicated on post ups and offensive rebounding, which are both looked down on in the modern nba.

DL will be pissed if he can't perform the balance beam test, but I'd be okay with taking him not having worked him out.
 
Jazz4ever said:
His numbers are insane, but you have to try and project what he is in the NBA. To just assume he'll "figure his role out" would be irresponsible.
He probably won't work out for the Jazz being we're at 24. So they won't be able to run him through some Jazz specific sets to see how he reacts and handles it.
You have to pass the ball in the NBA, so his 0.5 assists are a red flag.
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Gobert is very good at passing and only averages 1.2 assists per game. That's not a red flag at all.


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Jazz have been linked to Edmond Sumner in a couple of recent Mocks. Apparently his injury might keep him sidelined for an entire season.

Xavier sophomore point guard Edmond Sumner could spend the 2017-18 NBA season “on ice” but expects to be a contributor to his new team going forward.
The 6-foot-5 Sumner underwent ACL surgery in March and most recently had shoulder surgery.
“I think Edmond will get drafted in the second round,” Xavier coach Chris Mack said Thursday on The 4 Quarters Podcast. “Where that is, I don’t know. I’ve heard anywhere from 35-50. And I think a team’s going to take a chance on Ed simply because he’s such an elite athlete. I think they look at it like they could sort of put him on ice for a year, not have him play, get him rehabbed and have him 100 percent for the 2018-19 season.”
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I don't think I would use a second round pick on him. Maybe the 54th pick if all of the Euros are gone.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yes. Small guard with poor defensive effort. Coming off an ACL injury his senior year of HS, so question marks there.
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Did the ACL seem like it has hindered him in any way? I see him being as explosive as ever. The defensive effort is a real issue, but again - I'm very wary of giving it too much credence on teams that play zone and teams that require the primary playmaker to do everything on offense. It's not a real defense you can judge and when the coaching is bad it spirals out of control very quickly. Markelle Fultz has the exact same strike levied against him.
 
As gaudy as John Collins season stats are, he got better as the season went on and had a PER of 38 in ACC play. That is ridiculous. As a prospect, he has warts, mainly that his biggest strength is post scoring and he just won't be used there in the NBA. But guys who are that efficient, that productive, tend to just be good at basketball and figure out how to help teams.

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