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Rubio traded to Jazz

They specifically said they would take money and reinvest it in the team.
Well ya. They would always do that with some of their profits. They didn't say anything about how much they would be spending though or how much the profits even are.
 
Somewhere we're going to have to find extra shooting that's not currently on the roster.
 
If Rubio is so effing good, wouldn't the Wolves have sniffed the playoffs even once? Seriously.
 
I didn't say that... just saying we are cost conscious and I think that contract figures into this... so does everything else:

certainty
Hill's toe
Keeping Ingles too

It all factors in. I would be shocked if we kept Hill... completely shocked.

He's still an asset if you can sign him for a reasonable amount. It's not like we can go after FAs with the money we'd save on Hill. I think people are getting too stuck on the current numbers, when Utah could flip one of them at the deadline and still avoid the tax.

I think it depends on how much truth there is to the reports Hayward wants Hill back. If they are true, you still have to try and re-sign him. You can't just make a cost motivated move and then cross your fingers. Maybe DL has already cleared everything with Hayward, but I think it's just as likely this was insurance for Hill as opposed to a conscience decision not to pursue him at all.

And yeah, of course the big picture cap wise is always a factor, I just don't believe that is a bigger priority than signing Hayward. It also amuses me that people were claiming Utah wasn't using that cap space because they were too cheap, but when they use it, people then say they did it to save money because they are cheap. Maybe I was being a bit too dismissive of the cost factor, but the whole cheap claim just becomes much too convenient to throw around.
 
Wait, thought you were super excited about Hill playing the two and having 4 playmakers on the floor. lol

Hill is gone. And he's better than Rubio.

I meant it's possible and would kick *** to watch. I know of two dead weights that could be moved to make it happen.
 
Optimistic look.

Possible superior defenders: Gobert, Rubio, Ingles, Mitchell, Exum, Favors, maybe even Hayward

Other guys: Hood (improving defender), Johnson (smart defender), Bradley, Bolomboy, Burks (sigh)
 
I've wondered about this and pray to God you're right but I just don't see it happening. We'd lose Ingles, have trouble selling Hill and Rubio on this, and would really hinder Exum's development once again, despite his supposed amazing growth.

We would have until the trade deadline to make other moves to get under the tax. I think we could easily get back similar value to what we spent on Rubio if we flipped him.

As for Exum, all 3 could spend some time at the 2, and between Rubio and Hill, we might have one of them injured more often than not.
 
He's still an asset if you can sign him for a reasonable amount. It's not like we can go after FAs with the money we'd save on Hill. I think people are getting too stuck on the current numbers, when Utah could flip one of them at the deadline and still avoid the tax.

I think it depends on how much truth there is to the reports Hayward wants Hill back. If they are true, you still have to try and re-sign him. You can't just make a cost motivated move and then cross your fingers. Maybe DL has already cleared everything with Hayward, but I think it's just as likely this was insurance for Hill as opposed to a conscience decision not to pursue him at all.

And yeah, of course the big picture cap wise is always a factor, I just don't believe that is a bigger priority than signing Hayward. It also amuses me that people were claiming Utah wasn't using that cap space because they were too cheap, but when they use it, people then say they did it to save money because they are cheap. Maybe I was being a bit too dismissive of the cost factor, but the whole cheap claim just becomes much too convenient to throw around.

Check out Tony Jones' timeline... he confirms that yes Hill is gone and yes the difference in salary was a factor.

I think we will spend into the tax and we would not choose to save a few million over risk losing Hayward. And again if we thought it was a package deal of Hill and Hayward and we did this trade it is because we think he's out.

If we lose Hayward we are really in trouble now... no money to get anything good. Unless someone worked a sign and trade with us.. like Favs for Gallo or something like that.

This deal is good... it isn't a homerun like the Mitchell deal.
 
We would have until the trade deadline to make other moves to get under the tax. I think we could easily get back similar value to what we spent on Rubio if we flipped him.

As for Exum, all 3 could spend some time at the 2, and between Rubio and Hill, we might have one of them injured more often than not.

Hill-Rubio-Exum
Hood-Mitchell
Hayward-Ingles-Johnson some

There's not enough time for Mitchell and/or Exum to develop.
 
I'm having trouble buying into this.

I'd rather have Hill for his shooting, but this is a whole lot better than trying to negotiate with Hill for a week or more, only to miss out and then have to pick from the scraps left over after the better players have signed elsewhere. God forbid we had another season with Mack playing lots of minutes.
 
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