[Jones]BREAKING: Jazz willing to engage Celtics in S&T talks: But Gordon Hayward must agree

[Siro]

Yeah but then they have to trade Smart or Bradley too.

We'll take Bradley if they take Burks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They renounced his QO, not his rights I think. If I'm not mistaken?

Pretty sure renouncing QO makes the player a UFA, so they no longer have any rights on him. He would have to agree to the S&T. Right?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I want no part of Olynyk. I don't think he can play next to Gobert. Why would we pay a back-up C that price?

They wouldn't play Olynyk next to Rudy. They'd play Olynyk off the bench as a 3rd big and stretchy 5.

 

[Ron Mexico]

People are suggesting :

Favors+Hayward for Olynyk and Crowder.

I don't think that works for them. That doesn't clear space for Hayward for them. They have already waived Olynyk rights. Favors makes more than Crowder. I could be wrong but I think even in the sign and trade they can't take in more than the salary cap.

 

[Gameface]

Then you trade him. But he's always been happy in Utah, and the Jazz never mistreated him, I don't think.

I don't think it was lost on him that we were picking Hayward over him. He hasn't been getting much love at all with his injury-riddled season. I think he may not be super happy to be here at the moment. But things can certainly change.

 

[Ron Mexico]

They wouldn't play Olynyk next to Rudy. They'd play Olynyk off the bench as a 3rd big and stretchy 5.

How much are you willing to pay for a 3rd big who only plays backup center behind our best player Gobert. How many minutes will he get at backup? 15?

 

[Jazz4ever]

Yeah but then they have to trade Smart or Bradley too.

They probably actually want Favors to give them some interior defense, and its the reason we would be able to get Crowder's awesome contract (short of giving a 1st).
As for Smart, probably send him to NY for a pick or something.

 

[Avery]

Crowder may have the best contract in the NBA. That's not hyperbole.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The time pressure is on Ainge here. The Jazz can sit back and explore all kinds of trades. They don't need to capitulate to Ainge.

I made this point earlier... both teams have urgency but neither has a ton of leverage. Weird deal all the way around.

If Gordon doesn't dig in it is a moot point though. I'm not sure Crowder and Hayward would get along well with the stuff around that deal.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We'll take Bradley if they take Burks.

Burks makes more $$ than Bradley so it agains defeats any purpose of a trade on their side.

 

[Siro]

Burks makes more $$ than Bradley so it agains defeats any purpose of a trade on their side.

I was joking.

 

[Beantown]

Who keeps talking about Favors being in the deal?

1. That's a dumb trade for the Jazz

2. That nullifies the reason Boston is doing this trade

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They probably actually want Favors to give them some interior defense, and its the reason we would be able to get Crowder's awesome contract (short of giving a 1st).
As for Smart, probably send him to NY for a pick or something.

Favors was a walking corpse last year.

 

[Siro]

I made this point earlier... both teams have urgency but neither has a ton of leverage. Weird deal all the way around.

If Gordon doesn't dig in it is a moot point though. I'm not sure Crowder and Hayward would get along well with the stuff around that deal.

Crowder is gone. He literally said he'd like to leave Boston. Pretty much a toxic player to have in the locker room for Boston atm. Amazing for us tho!

 

[Miggs]

So how does a trade exception work? I forget. I think we used one to trade for Fat Al.

 

[NAOS]

They wouldn't play Olynyk next to Rudy. They'd play Olynyk off the bench as a 3rd big and stretchy 5.

precisely. That's why I'm not interested. Like, AT ALL

 

[Avery]

Why would Crowder want to stay? Ainge has basically already told him with the GH signing that he's not the guy. Add in the fact that their last two top 5 draft picks have been SF's and you can pretty clearly say he's not in their plans.

 

[Elizah Huge]

So how does a trade exception work? I forget. I think we used one to trade for Fat Al.

I'm pretty sure we used the trade exception for Boozer to get Big Al.


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[NUMBERICA]

Things can change during the season. If he is healthy and filling a big role on a team that ends up better off than expected after losing Hyaward he might warm up to the idea of sticking around, and fans would warm up to him as well.

Problem is, we just watched how that played out. It didn't play out well.

 

[Siro]

Problem is, we just watched how that played out. It didn't play out well.

He might recover tho. I'm very skeptical, but not long ago, Favors was awesome. I'd rather give up a protected first and take a chance on Favors.