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Maybe the plan with Bradley is to have him as the eventual replacement for Gobert. The first three years we groom him, the next 3 years Bradley starts sharing time with Gobert then in 6 years he becomes the franchise center with Gobert being the defensive specialist.
 
LoPo said:
Maybe the plan with Bradley is to have him as the eventual replacement for Gobert. The first three years we groom him, the next 3 years Bradley starts sharing time with Gobert then in 6 years he becomes the franchise center with Gobert being the defensive specialist.
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Ummmm.... sure.
 
Some people talk about DL's love for the guy. I haven't seen that. I'm just trying to rationalize the pick of a freshman center....
 
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Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think they move the same at all. Bradley is okay laterally, but still looks like a plodder. When LA came in he was skinny.

I've never been convinced by his shot either. I think Bradley will be a center only and won't go back and forth between PF/C.

If he becomes a slower LA then that is great... I just don't see it. Would love for him to get some run with the varsity team the last half of the year though.
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Bradley is really fast up and down the court. Not a plodder at all. He just can't jump high.
 
LoPo said:
Maybe the plan with Bradley is to have him as the eventual replacement for Gobert. The first three years we groom him, the next 3 years Bradley starts sharing time with Gobert then in 6 years he becomes the franchise center with Gobert being the defensive specialist.


Some people talk about DL's love for the guy. I haven't seen that. I'm just trying to rationalize the pick of a freshman center....
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LoPo said:
Maybe the plan with Bradley is to have him as the eventual replacement for Gobert. The first three years we groom him, the next 3 years Bradley starts sharing time with Gobert then in 6 years he becomes the franchise center with Gobert being the defensive specialist.


Some people talk about DL's love for the guy. I haven't seen that. I'm just trying to rationalize the pick of a freshman center....
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He picked him because the numbers say he is an absolute steal at the end of the first round.

Nothing more, nothing less. The numbers said he would be a top 10 pick in 2018 if he goes back to school.

So, if you’re DL, you pick him swinging for the fences. If he blows up, you can keep him and move Gobert or trade him. He’s an asset.
 
I like Bradley. I'm fine having him. No need to trade him unless he is the absolute reason a good deal happens.
 
green said:
He picked him because the numbers say he is an absolute steal at the end of the first round.

Nothing more, nothing less. The numbers said he would be a top 10 pick in 2018 if he goes back to school.

So, if you’re DL, you pick him swinging for the fences. If he blows up, you can keep him and move Gobert or trade him. He’s an asset.
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Which numbers are these ones you refer to ?
 
green said:
He picked him because the numbers say he is an absolute steal at the end of the first round.

Nothing more, nothing less. The numbers said he would be a top 10 pick in 2018 if he goes back to school.

So, if you’re DL, you pick him swinging for the fences. If he blows up, you can keep him and move Gobert or trade him. He’s an asset.
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I’m done bagging on the pick. Want to see if he works on his body this offseason and if he can develop a jumper. He needs to take more down in the G League... that league is for experimentation.

The guy needs a rout to getting some minutes of he’s going to blow up and I doubt he is more effective than Udoh next year. I just think the position is saturated and if he doesn’t develop his jumpshot I’m not sure he will be anything special.
 
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Beal's gf tweeted this. Wonder what we would have to give up to get Gortat and a 1st.

She also tweeted "This **** is crazy man. And you KNOW I'm holding my tongue!!!!!" and "Brad can't do it by himself. Smh"
 
zyzz said:
I feel like it would take more than that. Or at least heavy protections on their first rounder. I think that team is close to having a meltdown.
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I’d do lotto protected... they get an upgrade from Favs to Gortat and save 13M next year. Could re-sign Favs for less than that imo.

Would give them a shakeup. I’m not giving much more than that.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I’d do lotto protected... they get an upgrade from Favs to Gortat and save 13M next year. Could re-sign Favs for less than that imo.

Would give them a shakeup. I’m not giving much more than that.
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I’d take any pick from them in a Favors/Gortat swap and then I’d parlay that and JJ into Mirotic.

If they’re wanting more than just Favors then we can get a gore tat somewhere else.

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Dunc'd On did another Jazz trade today

Utah in: Tristan Thompson, Kyle Korver, 2018 Cleveland 1st round pick
Utah out: Derrick Favors, Alec Burks

Also had discussions with Philly about Jerryd Bayless. The person representing Philly said they would do Favors for Bayless and either Luwawu-Cabarrot or Anzejs Pasecniks or Justin Anderson, but they were kind of iffy about that. Bucks would be interested, but their 1st rounder is too valuable and matching salaries would be tough.

They weren't really enthusiastic about any of these and they implied that there wouldn't be a huge market for Favors.
 
Call me crazy but I would love to get Jae Crowder and Iman Shumpert here. I think the mountain air might revitalize them a bit. Both these guys can defend and shoot the three, or at least that's how I remember them (I haven't watched much Cavs basketball recently).

Kevin Love would also be a great fit next to Gobert.

I have no desire for Tristan Thompson. I just have never liked watching him play.
 
zyzz said:
Dunc'd On did another Jazz trade today

Utah in: Tristan Thompson, Kyle Korver, 2018 Cleveland 1st round pick
Utah out: Derrick Favors, Alec Burks

Also had discussions with Philly about Jerryd Bayless. The person representing Philly said they would do Favors for Bayless and either Luwawu-Cabarrot or Anzejs Pasecniks or Justin Anderson, but they were kind of iffy about that. Bucks would be interested, but their 1st rounder is too valuable and matching salaries would be tough.

They weren't really enthusiastic about any of these and they implied that there wouldn't be a huge market for Favors.
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This is horrific! This is fireable offense the day it happens. WTF? We just added 13M of useless salaries for the 2018-2019 year and 26M of useless salaries for 2019-2020 while giving up Favors.

This is 40 freaking million of negative/useless salaries we added. FOURTHY MILLION!!! For a late first. WTF?
 
Given all this Wizards talk, it seems there's some obvious discontent going on there. Who says no to this trade? One caveat that I think helps for Washington is they like Kelly Oubre. This would also allow more of an opportunity for him.

Wizards Receive: Derrick Favors, Rodney Hood, Joe Johnson, Alec Burks
Jazz Receive: Otto Porter, Marcin Gortat, Jodie Meeks.

You could also make it work with additional draft picks somewhere in there.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaqu8ltr
 
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