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Grayson Allen predictions

Some internet research indicates that before the 80s, NBA player heights were listed as height without shoes. Then it changed to height with shoes without any central plan to change a 'regulation,' or anything like that. Further research indicates that there is significant variation to be expected in players' measurements depending on a range of variables. DX became something of a standard (but it isn't clear how they were gathering all their listed heights; and now that Givony is gone, will they be retained as a standard?); before that measurements were collated from several independent sources (i.e. motives unclear). Errors are expected if they are converted from metric system. Etc. Also, many of the youngest players grow after the measurement that was last published, and no efforts are made to update them (KD is the famous example). ...Hardly the work of a 'standard' -- unless your definition of standard is loose, sloppy AF, and generally unconcerned with facts.
 
NAOS said:
Some internet research indicates that before the 80s, NBA player heights were listed as height without shoes. Then it changed to height with shoes without any central plan to change a 'regulation,' or anything like that. Further research indicates that there is significant variation to be expected in players' measurements depending on a range of variables. DX became something of a standard (but it isn't clear how they were gathering all their listed heights; and now that Givony is gone, will they be retained as a standard?); before that measurements were collated from several independent sources (i.e. motives unclear). Errors are expected if they are converted from metric system. Etc. Also, many of the youngest players grow after the measurement that was last published, and no efforts are made to update them (KD is the famous example). ...Hardly the work of a 'standard' -- unless your definition of standard is loose, sloppy AF, and generally unconcerned with facts.
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When I say something is common knowledge that I’ve been aware of for 15+ years, I’m sorry I don’t have a reference for you. However, my statement stands: that by NBA standards, Grayson is 6’5”.

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NAOS said:
Grayson is somewhere shy of 6' 3" without shoes.
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As far as I know.
 
There are loads of rumors that players show up to measurements with large padded insoles in their shoes. That'll give them at least 1/3"... which will then be rounded up even further.

This is dumb. Length matters more anyway. Grayson isn't particularly long. In the end, he's not even big for an NBA PG, which is why the heavy rounding up to 6'5" is misleading.... and... dumb.
 
Allen measured 6'4.5 at the combine, with his shoes on. Also, he has short arms -- for a NBA player of his size --, with a 6'7.25 wingspan. Because of this, I don't think it makes any sense rounding his height up to 6'5. That would just create the illusion that he has the standard size for a 2-guard, when he is actually slightly smaller than the standard. Let's have some good common sense!

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018-nba-draft-combine-measurements
 
ghsartin said:
Allen measured 6'4.5 at the combine, with his shoes on. Also, he has short arms -- for a NBA player of his size --, with a 6'7.25 wingspan. Because of this, I don't think it makes any sense rounding his height up to 6'5. That would just create the illusion that he has the standard size for a 2-guard, when he is actually slightly smaller than the standard. Let's have some good common sense!

http://www.nbadraft.net/2018-nba-draft-combine-measurements
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Good explication unlike me or Naos or X, this guy is not an idiot


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He might be the Jazz's best shooter.

Ingles is obviously a better standstill shooter, but he almost never comes off screens and shoots off motion. He's either spot-up or dribble pull up.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He might be the Jazz's best shooter.

Ingles is obviously a better standstill shooter, but he almost never comes off screens and shoots off motion. He's either spot-up or dribble pull up.
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OMFG!! What the hell have you been watching. It’s a new wrinkle he added to his game last year!!


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
He might be the Jazz's best shooter.

Ingles is obviously a better standstill shooter, but he almost never comes off screens and shoots off motion. He's either spot-up or dribble pull up.
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Granted, his shooting wasn't that good at Duke and he shot 30% overall and 22% from 3 at SL, but i guess it's possible he's figured it out and is the Jazz best shooter.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Granted, his shooting wasn't that good at Duke and he shot 30% overall and 22% from 3 at SL, but i guess it's possible he's figured it out and is the Jazz best shooter.
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His shooting percentages weren't stellar (weren't bad, but were respectable), but was doing so on very, very high volume
 
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