You're confusing those that have used the study materials vs. those that have been offered the study materials and not utilized them. If you look at the latter your numbers go up significantly.
This guy is Mormon?
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You're confusing those that have used the study materials vs. those that have been offered the study materials and not utilized them. If you look at the latter your numbers go up significantly.
Beantown
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But the test isn't to accept the gospel.
To follow up on Qman's post, the LDS faith teaches that the immediate hereafter (the "spirit world") is very much a continuation of this life. It's not until the resurrection (potentially much later) that an individual's test is over. And the gospel is being taught to individuals in the spirit world, so that no one will be denied access to the "study materials", as you put it. See Doctrine & Covenants section 138 for some of the detail on the spirit world. https://lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138?lang=eng
green
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If I am Krsytkowiak (sp?) then I am selling this hard to this kid. "Look at what Derrick Williams did. If you come to Utah, you can have everything BYU offers (good classes, good campus, pretty Mormon girls, avoid drinking, whatever else Donko sells people on) PLUS you are in the PAC-12. Which means if you take us to the sweet 16, instead of being a late lottery pick ala Jimmer, you will go top 3 ala Williams."
That being said, I highly doubt either Utah or BYU gets this kid. Since he is a one and done, I fully expect him to somehow end up at Kentucky.
Continue, please.... that wasn't a complete thought.
I'm not doubting... I just think there is more than one way to skin a cat. I would believe god probably thinks so too...
I would think it logical, that God may have provided a separate path to salvation for Muslims than he has for Mormons, because of cultural differences so that they may be saved too. I don't care what the prophesies say... the LDS church will never ever reach as significant influence in the middle east that it has in America.
Walmartyr9
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We all know who the best team is but who is the second best team?
Archie Moses
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Butler?
If you believe the Scriptures, and specifically the Bible... then there isn't more than one way to "skin a cat". "Strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life" (Matt 7:14). If there were multiple paths to get to the same place I believe it would have been worded differently.
I believe God has provided a way for all of his children to return to him. What is the point of a test if all of the answers are "right" answers? If I gave you a test and every answer was a right one, would you learn anything?
7StraightIsGreat
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Ironically, many christians give this type of answer when discussing why Mormonism and it's doctrines are flawed.
Just sayin.
If they do, it's because the don't get the Bible.
I hear what you're saying, but believe it or not I study in the Bible just as much as in the Book of Mormon, and my favorite books are the 4 Gospels.
In all my studies I have found the Bible to be a great support to all I believe.
I know what you are saying, but depending on how you look at it, The-Joker's idea of separate paths to salvation fits fairly well with Mormonism as well. That is, one path is "accept Christ in the here-and-now" while the other path is "accept Christ in the hereafter" (for example, for someone who was born, lived, and died in a Muslim country).
Beantown
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The test is how you treat people, ten commandments, how you raise your kids.....etc. I think that being religious or spiritual is just the cherry on top and helps people be more charitable.
Also the biggest reason we are here is to gain a body and gain knowledge.
Gyp Rosetti
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question: do mormons believe they are going to go to some star or some **** when they die or something about some star? i was in texas wearinbg my jazz hat and some local yahoo said something along those lines. i took it as he's a dumbass texan but nothing would really surprise me when it comes to religion.
7StraightIsGreat
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From what I understand they have 3 different levels of heaven and there's also something about being a god of your own world if you are righteous enough.
That would be new to me. But then again, I'm not your typical mormon.
I suspect the guy was conflating two doctrines: (a) LDS believe we are reunited with God when we die, and (b) one of our volume of scriptures teaches that God told Abraham that one of the stars "was nearest unto the throne of God" (Abraham chapter 3 verse 3). That star was called Kolob. However, we really don't know what that means beyond the symbolism that God is greatest of all (verse 16 of the same chapter). I don't know of many (any?) LDS people that believe that God is physically located at that star and that we go there to join him when we die.
Correct, which we call celestial, terrestrial, and telestial.
Well, that's more like folk doctrine than real doctrine. LDS will often joke about it: "I'm going to get rid of the mosquitoes once I get to be god of my own world", that type of thing. It's a supposition that comes from our belief that the ultimate level of heaven is to become like God, and to share in His power and glory. Since God created the earth, the logic goes, we will eventually get to create our own worlds. However, the "create your own planet" doctrine is not backed up by any scriptures that I'm aware of, and I've never heard any church leaders teach it at, say, our General Conference.
So you can see the "real doctrine", here are the actual verses that refer to becoming like God: (from Doctrine and Covenants, section 76)
D&C said:
To me, that doesn't sound very much like "create your own world", it sounds more like "partake in God's glory forever". But I'm sure there are LDS members who strongly believe in the create your own world doctrine.
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Safetydan
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So if they disagree with Mormon doctrine, and they point to bible passages as evidence, they are wrong because they don't understand the bible?