The story behind the Utah Jazz’s front-office shake-up, and why it happened now

[Handlogten's Heros]

All of that is possible but I still think the timing was telling. He was crazy involved then they won a ring then he pulled back. I think he is still obviously the owner, obviously involved, obviously cares, but also obviously isn't as driven to get every edge he can to win it again. There are degrees to this and it's funny when so many people can't fathom nuance. It isn't all or nothing but there was a definite drop-off in intensity. It's like the first time a teenager has sex. They do everything in their power to get it done, but afterwards they still want it, opportunistically get it when they can, seek it out, and all that, but the level of obsession definitely drops a few notches.

This latter part is exactly how I (and probably everyone) here feels about a title. I’ve never experienced my team win it all and I’ve been at this foreplay too long. I’m really looking forward to that refractory period.

I've got them Larry O Blue Balls. Can't wait to put my weiner in that trophy.

 

[infection]

I've got them Larry O Blue Balls. Can't wait to put my weiner in that trophy.

Ryan might be able to market and sell that experience to offset luxury tax costs.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ryan might be able to market and sell that experience to offset luxury tax costs.

$500 gets you alone with the trophy for 5 minutes... what you do is up to you but here are some sanitary wipes.

 

[jom2003]

I see your point, but one of the things the bench needs to do is not be a greasefire when they are playing. Either they tread water or outscore the other's bench a little and be pleasant to have around. You can have an uber talented bench that eventually erupts into flames because of all the alpha personalities. The year after Stockton and Malone left, Sloan got a bunch of rag tag players and came within a game of making the playoffs. The secret was they played hard, played decent D, boxed out and knocked down shots when left open. Where is Ben Handlogten when we need him?

of course there ain't no greasefire when there's hardly any competition.

Quite the opposite to your argument, i'd say our min guys are currently having the best time in the entire league right now compared to other teams counterparts.

Because they are making NBA min salary without having to actually play like one.

Like i've said before, Miye Oni, Forrest, Morgan, Thomas. These are the guys that probably won't even make it to other teams 15 men roster. And collecting a paycheck of 1.5mil/year is better than not having a paycheck at all. Especially you are making these money without actually having to play any meaningful basketball.

Austin Rivers, by comparison, played his heart out for the Nuggets in the playoffs. Averaging 30min a game for them. And you know what his salary is? 270k. That's 1/6 of the money that Oni is currently making, who hardly played for us all season. So I bet Rivers does not enjoy his situation one bit cuz he had to work his *** off to earn every penny.

If we do the math here, for every min that Morgan's played for us this season, he's making roughly 10k off of it.

And Ersan's making roughly 8k/min on the Jazz.

Doke? He's making 30k/min.

So you tell me, why would there be any greasefire when those guys just collecting paychecks left and right without having to work for it?

We could've so easily spent those money on guys who could actually play in that Clippers series. That's the sad part.

 

[Gameface]

Cuban accepting Dogecoin at the AA Center.

Did he accept it doggie style?

 

[The Thriller]

Jeez. What a train wreck. Are the Knicks a better run franchise currently?

 

[homeytennis]

of course there ain't no greasefire when there's hardly any competition.

Quite the opposite to your argument, i'd say our min guys are currently having the best time in the entire league right now compared to other teams counterparts.

Because they are making NBA min salary without having to actually play like one.

Like i've said before, Miye Oni, Forrest, Morgan, Thomas. These are the guys that probably won't even make it to other teams 15 men roster. And collecting a paycheck of 1.5mil/year is better than not having a paycheck at all. Especially you are making these money without actually having to play any meaningful basketball.

Austin Rivers, by comparison, played his heart out for the Nuggets in the playoffs. Averaging 30min a game for them. And you know what his salary is? 270k. That's 1/6 of the money that Oni is currently making, who hardly played for us all season. So I bet Rivers does not enjoy his situation one bit cuz he had to work his *** off to earn every penny.

If we do the math here, for every min that Morgan's played for us this season, he's making roughly 10k off of it.

And Ersan's making roughly 8k/min on the Jazz.

Doke? He's making 30k/min.

So you tell me, why would there be any greasefire when those guys just collecting paychecks left and right without having to work for it?

We could've so easily spent those money on guys who could actually play in that Clippers series. That's the sad part.

That would be the Hoopshype story of about 125 nba vets looking for work in January or February. Names like Korver, RHJ, Ian Clark, Mudiay, Dwayne Dedmon.

 

[silesian]

Jeez. What a train wreck. Are the Knicks a better run franchise currently?

I bet there are similar power struggles and tensions in every organization.

I wonder how much of this was known by local writers who kept it under wraps for years. I'm sure there are regular leaks in the organization.

I got the sense that Andy got both Quin and Dennis's side of the story directly for this article. Probably one spoke and then they went to the other to get their side. That's how it works in DC anyway.

 

[jom2003]

That would be the Hoopshype story of about 125 nba vets looking for work in January or February. Names like Korver, RHJ, Ian Clark, Mudiay, Dwayne Dedmon.

If you want a good paying job with minimum work hours, just come to Utah.

Oh, have I mentioned that there is no job qualification either?

Even if you aren't really good enough for NBA basketball, as long as DL believes that you are, you will get the job.

So I bet those guys out there currently looking for a job in the NBA are gutted to see DL go.

 

[cowhide]

I've got them Larry O Blue Balls. Can't wait to put my weiner in that trophy.

I waited 37 years to see my beloved Red Sox win a World Series and the Boston fans waited 86 years. I was in Boston the night they won and I can tell you it was the best sports night of my life. Even better than when Stockton hit the shot. I have been a Jazz fan since they can to Utah. If my math is correct it has been 42 years and I am getting tired and older. I knew in 1998 when the Jazz got screwed that series might have been their best and last chance. I hoped not but as a fan all I ask is that the organization does whatever they can to put the best team on the court.

This year I thought they had their best chance but the injuries hurt them along with staying pat. I started to see some cracks after the all-star break and was extremely disappointed to only acquire Matt Thomas. I understand you want familiarity with your team but sometimes you have to look at your team objectively and fix the weaknesses. I thought they were going to address them when they talked about getting longer more athletic wing players instead they brought back Favors, signed JC, drafted another center and rolled the dice again. I am hoping new front office guys will bring a needed organization change with a little less loyalty and more acquiring of talent.

 

[Goodluckchuck]

I waited 37 years to see my beloved Red Sox win a World Series and the Boston fans waited 86 years. I was in Boston the night they won and I can tell you it was the best sports night of my life. Even better than when Stockton hit the shot. I have been a Jazz fan since they can to Utah. If my math is correct it has been 42 years and I am getting tired and older. I knew in 1998 when the Jazz got screwed that series might have been their best and last chance. I hoped not but as a fan all I ask is that the organization does whatever they can to put the best team on the court.

This year I thought they had their best chance but the injuries hurt them along with staying pat. I started to see some cracks after the all-star break and was extremely disappointed to only acquire Matt Thomas. I understand you want familiarity with your team but sometimes you have to look at your team objectively and fix the weaknesses. I thought they were going to address them when they talked about getting longer more athletic wing players instead they brought back Favors, signed JC, drafted another center and rolled the dice again. I am hoping new front office guys will bring a needed organization change with a little less loyalty and more acquiring of talent.

You went up in my book bro. Another Red Sox fan here as well. My family is from Boston so it was a religion growing up. My grandfather would tell me about Ted Williams growing up. How he would go to war during the season, how he was a man's man. I wish I could have been in Boston during that series. My extended family was, and they were in tears. Lets hope, we don't have to wait that long for the Jazz.