Following Potential 2025 Draftees
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Yeah but Tre has elite 2-guard size and he's an actual elite shooter.
HadAnEffectHere
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Man, I can't imagine how bad we're going to be defensively next year if we add Tre Johnson to our arsenal of guards.
Keyonte, Tre, and Sexton...
To be clear, we should pick Tre, but this is gonna be rough if we do, lol.
Hopefully we trade Sexton anyway though.
Keyonte, Tre, and Sexton...
To be clear, we should pick Tre, but this is gonna be rough if we do, lol.
Hopefully we trade Sexton anyway though.
SojoDave
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No matter who we pick, our defense will suck.
Tre has the potential on that end of he is coached up and puts the effort in.
ESPN's new mock has the Jazz taking Fears at #5, while Tre Johnson slips to #6.
KOC's new mock has the Jazz taking Kon at #5, while Tre Johnson slips to #6. .
I think the Jazz will consider all kinds of ideas, but it's 80% likely they'll take Tre.
KOC's new mock has the Jazz taking Kon at #5, while Tre Johnson slips to #6. .
I think the Jazz will consider all kinds of ideas, but it's 80% likely they'll take Tre.
Basketball Novice
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I would be more inclined to trade Key. Tre is just an upgraded version of Key and I don't know what role Key plays if Tre is on the team. Sexton is just the better player and the whole team can't be filled with rookie contract players. Want to keep at least some half way decent veterans on the team just for the culture and work ethic.
Coach Ellis
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I disagree. Just trade all the vets and let the young guys struggle through the extended playing time. Push the window to 2027, open up cap space and look to make opportunistic trades over the next two years to fill those roles. As much as I like Lauri, Sexton and Collins, they have more value as trade chips now instead of long-term fits.
Basketball Novice
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I don't know if the Jazz are a functional team if they trade all 3 of those guys. And I don't trust Key to grow in any significant way. The Jazz would be an all time dysfunctional team without those 3 and we have already witnessed the pitfalls of the lottery. For the development of our younger players, we need to have some semblance of a normal team structure. Having a bunch of rookie contract guys struggle as starters will not benefit their development.
I'm intrigued by Drake Powell measuring out the same size and a bit longer than Jaylen Brown. I think he could be a significant perimeter defender and do enough on offense to blend in.
Speaking of enormous. He runs well, plays hard and has great hands. There's no reason he can't come in and be like Robin Lopez as a starting point.
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Coach Ellis
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I think you have to weigh that against losing value even more than they already have. Collins and Sexton (and Clarkson) are all expiring. You can’t get value for them if they leave as free agents. I’d much prefer to trade them this offseason than have that happen. As for Lauri, I think you have to trade him if you plan to tank. Not looking to get rid of him just to move on, they have to get real value if they do trade him and I think they can.
Basketball Novice
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Thats a fair assessment. Perhaps I just have a soft spot for Sexton and hope he can be resigned but getting value for them before they expire is a reasonable direction to go. And I mostly agree with you on trading Lauri.
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But I also believe we need to start making calls on some of our rookie contract guys. We currently have 4 picks in this draft and more coming in the next few years. Out of Key, Brice, Hendricks, Cody, Collier, Flip (not to mention a guy like juzang) who are we going to give more development minutes to and who are we cutting loose? The rotation is already stuffed with young guys. How many more can we realistically add to the rotation? The time is fast approaching where we have to make some judgement calls on these guys.
If Fears' shooting comes together, he can be a lead initiator and primary player whose positional value is probably higher than Tre Johnson's just due to the amount of time he's going to have the ball in his hands.
Fleming starts to become very interesting when you compare him physically to guys like Derrick Favors and Jalen Duren, then realize he's a 39% 3pt shooter.
Ideally every rotation spot is given to a young guy. There is no incentive to win games. Having playing time for our young guys is the least of my concerns.
I honestly see Fleming as the potential biggest riser and Tre as potential biggest faller, come draft night.
A big part of his evaluation rests on his ability to grow. Of course that’s the case for every prospect, but it’s especially true for Fears given how young and physically underdeveloped he is. I think he has quite a bit of potential, but if the shot doesn’t come around his career might be in jeopardy.
Still, I think it’s worth noting that he was essentially the same level of scorer as Tre Johnson. He did so by getting to the basket and FT line, and at for me at least the ability to attack the paint is as important as the ability to shoot. I’d bet that more guys learn to shoot vs learn to attack the paint as well.
You know I was actually really looking forward to not have to look so deeply into prospects after we landed the #1 pick and just chilled for a whole month knowing we’d take Cooper Flagg but… you know. Here we are. 5 and 21. Honestly, could be a lot worse. Our highest pick in over a decade and only our 6th Top-5 pick ever.
@Handlogten's Heros is smitten with Kon Knueppel. At the moment I’m hoping Ace or VJ fall and if not I’m taking Tre.
Going to be an interesting next month and a half to say the least!
@Handlogten's Heros is smitten with Kon Knueppel. At the moment I’m hoping Ace or VJ fall and if not I’m taking Tre.
Going to be an interesting next month and a half to say the least!