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Doufos is gone

Poor KK. He's going to a team that won 15 games, just traded away their best player and they don't want him. Man that's cold.
 
YB85 said:
Or you can actually watch the games and see that these guys have no talent.
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Look in the mirror.

Actually, I do watch the games, and when Fes is playing C instead of Boozer or Okur, the opposing team goes less inside and scores less overall, on average, than the Jazz do. And this is with Fes still being quite raw on both ends of the court, and having gotten about as many minutes in 3 years as many other young C's get in one or two (Exhibit A: Ostertag).

Data only backs that up.
 
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InGameStrategy said:
Look in the mirror.

Actually, I do watch the games, and when Fes is playing C instead of Boozer or Okur, the opposing team goes less inside and scores less overall, on average, than the Jazz do. And this is with Fes still being quite raw on both ends of the court, and having gotten about as many minutes in 3 years as many other young C's get in one or two (Exhibit A: Ostertag).

Data only backs that up.
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I looked in the mirror and the image said "S2M is a moron and Fes sucks, regardless of some +/- ********". The mirror is smart.
 
YB85 said:
I looked in the mirror and the image said "S2M is a moron and Fes sucks, regardless of some +/- ********". The mirror is smart.
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Go back and watch the last game against the Lakers. He was a big force on the defensive side. If we can re-sign him for the 1 million it is a no brainer to bring him back.
 
NCJazz said:
Go back and watch the last game against the Lakers. He was a big force on the defensive side. If we can re-sign him for the 1 million it is a no brainer to bring him back.
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Agreed, if he can ever get in shape and gets his IQ up, he can be a force around the basket.
 
There are certain people on this board YB85 and Jeditiger to name a few whose advances towards Fes were spurned and thus are now acting like the little children they are. You must be right. You are seeing it correctly and no one else could possibly have a good point or two about Fes. No one including multiple coaches, teammates etc could possibly be right. Only you are right. Screw the +/- because it doesn't fit your ideal. Ignore the obvious influence he has on players or let's say Bynum's stats against Fes versus the rest of the Laker's playoff games. You use a lot of legitimacy as posters because your criticism is never backed by a logical argument only emotional diatribe. Does Fes need to work harder, absolutely. Do you really think though that if he hadn't shown significant progress in practice, games etc, that he would still be playing for the Jazz or any NBA team? As pointed out before by another poster additional minutes will make a huge difference in his progress, his psyche etc.

In a nutshell, talk facts, stats or anything else but otherwise take your emotional drivel elsewhere to your make believe fantasy world because the rest of the normal human beings on this site don't hate simply to hate.

PS Yeah, we are all impressed you have your own forum as well. I wish I could be your friend.
 
go4jazz said:
There are certain people on this board YB85 and Jeditiger to name a few whose advances towards Fes were spurned and thus are now acting like the little children they are. You must be right. You are seeing it correctly and no one else could possibly have a good point or two about Fes. No one including multiple coaches, teammates etc could possibly be right. Only you are right. Screw the +/- because it doesn't fit your ideal. Ignore the obvious influence he has on players or let's say Bynum's stats against Fes versus the rest of the Laker's playoff games. You use a lot of legitimacy as posters because your criticism is never backed by a logical argument only emotional diatribe. Does Fes need to work harder, absolutely. Do you really think though that if he hadn't shown significant progress in practice, games etc, that he would still be playing for the Jazz or any NBA team? As pointed out before by another poster additional minutes will make a huge difference in his progress, his psyche etc.

In a nutshell, talk facts, stats or anything else but otherwise take your emotional drivel elsewhere to your make believe fantasy world because the rest of the normal human beings on this site don't hate simply to hate.

PS Yeah, we are all impressed you have your own forum as well. I wish I could be your friend.
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Boo hoo. Now my feelings are hurt. You want stats? How about this: 79 games played out of 246 while he has been here. Sounds like the multiple coaches feel he is really worth playing. Either that or the guy can't be healthy. What am I missing?

Your little diatribe was impressive, but I failed to see the facts that you are asking that I post. If the guy is as good as some on this board say, then why has he not been signed to a contract or an offer sheet? 7 foot plus guys are in such huge demand and here is this guy who has an "obvious influence" on games that is waiting for a contract. Apparently all of the GM's haven't yet talked to "multiple coaches, teammates etc" or someone would have offered this immensely talented center a contract. Instead, he sits, unsigned, while debates take place about whether $1-2M per is fair or if a third year should be offered.

Do I hate Fes? No. I wish that he would step up and understand that with work he could have the world, but instead he is happy to be an NBA player but not actually play.

As for being cool enough to have your own forum, you can kick in some funds and Jason will set you up. It's not that complicated. Then you can invite your friends and be cool together with your own little Fes circle jerk.
 
YB85 said:
Boo hoo. Now my feelings are hurt. You want stats? How about this: 79 games played out of 246 while he has been here. Sounds like the multiple coaches feel he is really worth playing. Either that or the guy can't be healthy. What am I missing?

Your little diatribe was impressive, but I failed to see the facts that you are asking that I post. If the guy is as good as some on this board say, then why has he not been signed to a contract or an offer sheet? 7 foot plus guys are in such huge demand and here is this guy who has an "obvious influence" on games that is waiting for a contract. Apparently all of the GM's haven't yet talked to "multiple coaches, teammates etc" or someone would have offered this immensely talented center a contract. Instead, he sits, unsigned, while debates take place about whether $1-2M per is fair or if a third year should be offered.

Do I hate Fes? No. I wish that he would step up and understand that with work he could have the world, but instead he is happy to be an NBA player but not actually play.

As for being cool enough to have your own forum, you can kick in some funds and Jason will set you up. It's not that complicated. Then you can invite your friends and be cool together with your own little Fes circle jerk.
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The Jazz did tender a QO to Fes:

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5340118

He has yet to sign the contract... I'm guessing he's deciding which offer, from his numerous suitors, he wants to take... wait there haven't been any offers.

The Jazz are doing the smart thing and getting him for the bare minimum.
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
the game the jazz trailed by double digits the whole way? oh, joy. as long as you want to talk about specific games, please breakdown Fesenko's contribution in this one:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010043026

or this one:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2010050413
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Yes, that was Fes's fault :) Rusty, nobody saying he is an all star or going to be an all star, but if we can keep him for the million or even 2 million I think it would be well worth it. Obviously we would not have extended the QO if Sloan and O'Connor did not feel the same way. What great center otherwise would we get for a million?
 
go4jazz said:
There are certain people on this board YB85 and Jeditiger to name a few whose advances towards Fes were spurned and thus are now acting like the little children they are. You must be right. You are seeing it correctly and no one else could possibly have a good point or two about Fes. No one including multiple coaches, teammates etc could possibly be right. Only you are right. Screw the +/- because it doesn't fit your ideal. Ignore the obvious influence he has on players or let's say Bynum's stats against Fes versus the rest of the Laker's playoff games. You use a lot of legitimacy as posters because your criticism is never backed by a logical argument only emotional diatribe. Does Fes need to work harder, absolutely. Do you really think though that if he hadn't shown significant progress in practice, games etc, that he would still be playing for the Jazz or any NBA team? As pointed out before by another poster additional minutes will make a huge difference in his progress, his psyche etc.

In a nutshell, talk facts, stats or anything else but otherwise take your emotional drivel elsewhere to your make believe fantasy world because the rest of the normal human beings on this site don't hate simply to hate.

PS Yeah, we are all impressed you have your own forum as well. I wish I could be your friend.
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Hi Fes! Didn't know you posted here! Got any offers from Europe yet?
 
Not very sad to see Koufos go... liked the guy, but he wasn't going anywhere in the league. He'll end up as a poor man's Jaron Collins?

This move of dumping Koufos obv. hints at the FO being interested in Fes, not to mention the QO they already hit him with... IDK Fesenko is a heck of a bargain at 1-2 million.

I'm on the side that hopes Fes is back on the cheap.

Al Jeff, Mansap, AK and Fes is an alright Frontcourt I'll tell you wat.
 
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