BluesRocker
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Will someone get me the numbers for Jason Kidd up on the board.
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BluesRocker
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So what's the difference between them? I haven't seen much of either of them this year. I watched a little Kendall Marshall.
The only difference really in their stats were that Marshall shot less in college.
Weezur
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I think Kidd w/o rebounding of Kidd would be Marshall's cieling.
Mark Jackson w/o the crazy is likely what Marshall would be.
And when I say Mark Jackson, I mean a player that puts up 10 pts/10 assists. Marshall is more likely IMO to be a 8pt/11assists kinda guy
I could care less either way, he knows how to run the offense and can probably make Favors an All Star.
Hantlers
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Kidd was an elite defender, very athletic, got into the lane at will. He's able to use his size more than Marshall does, just an overall better player by quite a bit. I think people are forgetting just how good Kidd was back when he was coming out, I'm not saying Marshall isn't good, because I have changed my mind on him, but Kidd was elite. I mean, he averaged almost 4 steals a game as a true freshman....that's crazy.
In the world of college basketball, a lot had changed and no one could've been sure just what level of impact Marshall was continuing to have. Now we know for sure, and that will be the thing people will remember more now.
Also some reasons why I and probably some others changed their tune: Ricky Rubio's impact (despite not having a good PER and no other great skills), and Jamaal Tinsley's (no legs at all, and really no particular scoring ability left, yet he has made a huge impact just with his passing and demeanor).
For being such a great athlete, Kidd was still a terrible offensive player in the pro's. The guy only shot over 42% from the floor 3 times in his career despite being a great athlete. Still think he is one of the more overrated PGs of all time.
Kind of OT, but had to say it.
Kind of OT, but had to say it.
BENTLEY
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Yes, Marshall was actually a bit of an offensive force in addition to his gaudy assists AND he was hitting from outside. AND THEN, after the wrist injury, the tarheels offense sputtered without him and this caused his stock to climb even higher. At any rate, Marshall's stock certainly wasn't hurt by his injury.
I think we're all saying the same thing - there was probably a misunderstanding or something.
I wonder who has a smaller vertical out of Kanter and Marshall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWHpCPlgP30
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Sounds like some one needs to get out on the greens
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Am I the only one that thinks they might me much improved. If Curry and Bogut are healthy, add to them an improving Klay Thompson and David Lee. GS could be a good team next year. Lee is putting up All-star numbers now.
... and add to that #7 in this draft ... they should be a playoff team, imo .. maybe easily.
orangello
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I agree with you. I think that they are a fringe playoff team if not better. Of course health will dictate everything for them but they certainly have potential to be a good team with a winning record.
Btw .. I thought this would have been impossible, earlier in the year, but I am now seeing a possibility of Barnes being there at #8 and Marshall/Lillard there at #14.
I am somewhat torn as to what we need more .. a PG, SG (that can SHOOT) and a SF. How would you rank those needs?
I am somewhat torn as to what we need more .. a PG, SG (that can SHOOT) and a SF. How would you rank those needs?
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I am somewhat torn as to what we need more .. a PG, SG (that can SHOOT) and a SF. How would you rank those needs?[/QUOTE]
Good pg's are harder to find sg sf are interchangeable, and easier to find.
Good pg's are harder to find sg sf are interchangeable, and easier to find.
orangello
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At the beginning of the year if you would have told me that the Jazz had a chance of landing Barnes and one of the two best PG's in the draft I would have been to happy to contain my excitement. Now with the knowledge of the college basketball season I am not so sure that I love that draft. For the second of the two lottery picks I take Marshall every time. As for the #8 pick, I am not sold that Barnes is the BPA.