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Is AK worth $10 million?

Is AK worth $10 million? (see post before answering)

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 13.1%

  • No

    Votes: 49 80.3%

  • I can't read

    Votes: 4 6.6%
  • Total voters
    61
Biggest problem I would have for him with us is that he cant shoot open jumpers too well. As has been said, other teams sat back off of him and dared him to shoot. Im going to guess most people cringed when he shot like I did. If he could hit jump shots, I would actually say he would be worth much more. But he cant and that is something we dont need at this point. All the other stuff is great, and yes he does alot of it very well.
Bad thing is he thinks of himself as the #1 option and scorer but he isnt capable of that. Then he pouts if he isnt treated as such.
 
I voted yes.

Worse players are signing contracts for more money. The market price for Kirilenko was at least $10 million, so he's worth it (just not to the Jazz).
 
Scorpjazz said:
Biggest problem I would have for him with us is that he cant shoot open jumpers too well. As has been said, other teams sat back off of him and dared him to shoot. Im going to guess most people cringed when he shot like I did. If he could hit jump shots, I would actually say he would be worth much more. But he cant and that is something we dont need at this point. All the other stuff is great, and yes he does alot of it very well.
Bad thing is he thinks of himself as the #1 option and scorer but he isnt capable of that. Then he pouts if he isnt treated as such.
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no he doesn't.
 
Ok, I'll give that maybe he doesnt think he is #1 scoring option I suppose. But he shouldnt be 2, 3, or 4 either. If he would embrace the scrappy Ronnie Brewer when he was here role, he would thrive (No set plays for him really, just get garbage and play d and hussle). 10 mil for that sort of player is a bit high to me is all.
 
Scorpjazz said:
Ok, I'll give that maybe he doesnt think he is #1 scoring option I suppose. But he shouldnt be 2, 3, or 4 either. If he would embrace the scrappy Ronnie Brewer when he was here role, he would thrive (No set plays for him really, just get garbage and play d and hussle). 10 mil for that sort of player is a bit high to me is all.
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he has always said he is fine with being a 4th or 5th scorer. more accurately, he said he'd be at his most happy scoring around 10 a game and doing all the other little things that make him unique.

AK isn't confused about his role. he understands that his value is in his versatility and basketball IQ, and not as a team's scoring threat. when he's allowed to have an impact on games -- whatever that means on a particular night -- he's happy. when he is marginalized and treated like a ronnie brewer-level role player, he is less happy. that's not hard to get.
 
theNBAnerd said:
AK isn't confused about his role. he understands that his value is in his versatility and basketball IQ, and not as a team's scoring threat.
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....basketball IQ? Please! How many dumb plays have we seen from Klinko over the years? Better yet, you can count on 1 hand the smart plays he made! Basically, the last smart play Klinko made with the Jazz was when Stockton and Malone were still on the team! He dribbles into traffic, launches ridiculous jumpers out of his range, gambles way too much on defense....and what about that humungous EYE SORE of a tattoo on his back???
 
A healthy and consistent AK worth near $10 million. But it's not gonna happen. So 5-6 million it's his price.
 
theNBAnerd said:
he has always said he is fine with being a 4th or 5th scorer. more accurately, he said he'd be at his most happy scoring around 10 a game and doing all the other little things that make him unique.

AK isn't confused about his role. he understands that his value is in his versatility and basketball IQ, and not as a team's scoring threat. when he's allowed to have an impact on games -- whatever that means on a particular night -- he's happy. when he is marginalized and treated like a ronnie brewer-level role player, he is less happy. that's not hard to get.
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Disagree. NOTHING prevented him from playing balls out on defense EVERY night. That was his strength and hopw he could have an impact every night. But, by his own admission, he was unhappy and put forth less effort on the defensive end unless he was getting a certain number of offensive touches each night. Now that doesn't mean shooting every time. But unfortunately, it meant throwing up too many wild 3's or ill-advisedly driving the lane when nothing was there. That was the problem with giving him the ball on offense.
 
Scorpjazz said:
Biggest problem I would have for him with us is that he cant shoot open jumpers too well. As has been said, other teams sat back off of him and dared him to shoot. Im going to guess most people cringed when he shot like I did. If he could hit jump shots, I would actually say he would be worth much more. But he cant and that is something we dont need at this point. All the other stuff is great, and yes he does alot of it very well.
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Sorry, but I think you have it backwards. This is an accurate representation of the "old" AK, but once Horny started working with him, his jumper improved. Although he had to be wide open to take one, I stopped cringing at his jumper his last few years here. But at the same time, he lost a bit of his athleticism and lost the ability to finish at the rim, particularly with contact, and his rebounding and defence deteriorated as well. Over his last few seasons, his jumper was the only thing that improved, everything else went south.

I don't think he would bring us anything that our current players don't, and I wouldn't swap him for ANY player on the current squad, even if he played for the vet minimum.
 
The "new" AK still couldnt shoot jumpers. Working with Horny never really seemed to pan out for him. He actually shot better outside early on than later IIRC.
 
I voted yes only because I seen this over on realgm.

(All numbers are average $$ per year, not this current year.
Here are your veteran SFs in the NBA, and what they're being paid.

Gay- $17.9 mil
Pierce- $16 mil
Iggy- $15.5 mil
Deng- $13.9 mil
Granger- $13.5 mil
J. Smith- $13.2 mil
Turkoglu- $11.9 mil
Batum- $11.5 mil
R. Jefferson- $10.6 mil
Gallinari- $10.5 mil
Wallace- $10 mil
Kirilenko- $9.5-10 mil (reports vary)
Marion- $8.7 mil
Odom- $8.2 mil or Butler- $8 mil
Salmons- $8 mil? Not sure how much the non-guaranteed part is worth, might be a bit more.
Marvin Williams- $7.9 mil
Artest- $7.5 mil
Ariza- $7.5 mil
Childress- $7 mil

If this doesn't convince you AK47 was a good signing, nothing will.)
 
theNBAnerd said:
i think i'm on record as one of the biggest AK believers left in jazzland... and even i wouldn't have advocated a 2 yr 20M deal given the jazz's current salary construct. having said that, if he really gave the jazz the first shot (like he said he would) there's no telling if he might have accepted an offer in the 7-8M range, but it looks like the jazz basically told him, "oh, welcome back to the NBA, good luck out there!" i can't understand why they'd do that. AK would automatically become our best wing player, and stylewise he's the perfect guy for hayward to watch and model some things after.

so in short, no, i wouldn't have made him the minny offer, but i think we could have had him for less.
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Sig this~Marvin Williams will have a better season than ak.
 
The Twolves fans are probably watching old videos of AK, and think they'll see this again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhe8WgUJGoA&feature=endscreen


Oh Tpups fans you'll see it a few times, start to wet yourself, and think AK has turned the corner. Then he'll get injured for 3 weeks, come back look lost for a few weeks, start to come back back, then
boom get injured all over again. wash - rinse - repeat
 
He was the Euroleague MVP and was making four million Euros after taxes. Ten million US dollars before taxes is pretty much the same amount. They probably had to pay him this much to get him to come back over.

He's a great fit for Minny. So many unselfish players, Adelman as coach, they're going to be a joy to watch.
 
mct said:
He was the Euroleague MVP and was making four million Euros after taxes. Ten million US dollars before taxes is pretty much the same amount. They probably had to pay him this much to get him to come back over.

He's a great fit for Minny. So many unselfish players, Adelman as coach, they're going to be a joy to watch.
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Yeah, I'm going to enjoy watching them deal with Rubio's and AK's injuries while watching Love playing 0 defense (Watching Millsap average 22 pts, 10 rbs, 3 assist, 4 steals and 1 block against him was fun) and complain that his team isn't making the playoffs.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, I'm going to enjoy watching them deal with Rubio's and AK's injuries while watching Love playing 0 defense (Watching Millsap average 22 pts, 10 rbs, 3 assist, 4 steals and 1 block against him was fun) and complain that his team isn't making the playoffs.
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I didn't say they'd be better than the Jazz--we have better finishers--but they're going to move the ball much better than us.
 
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