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Roger Braille Buyout Problems (merged)

I never wanted Raja back but he is under contract so I don't understand why he should give up money. Isn't that the purpose of having a contract. I think it is called business.
 
Stoked said:
So no we have to watch injuries and Bell gets to take the spot of someone more deserving. Some one dying for their "big chance"? I bet that person cares and I care that Bell is still in a Jazz uni. That limp noodle.
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My point is he burned his brige here, and after calling Corbin unprofessional, Coach shouldn't feel any obligation to play and give Bell minutes.
 
At some point the Jazz could likely fine or suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team, but I don't know what point that is.
 
cowhide said:
I never wanted Raja back but he is under contract so I don't understand why he should give up money. Isn't that the purpose of having a contract. I think it is called business.
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well in theory, yes... but he's the one saying he wants to be out of his contract and go somewhere else. or at least he's the first party to start saying so publicly. you can't go tell the media "i think it's obvious the relationship isn't working, i want out" and then hide behind the notion of "i've earned this guaranteed money."
 
theNBAnerd said:
well in theory, yes... but he's the one saying he wants to be out of his contract and go somewhere else. or at least he's the first party to start saying so publicly. you can't go tell the media "i think it's obvious the relationship isn't working, i want out" and then hide behind the notion of "i've earned this guaranteed money."
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Happens all the time. Teams buy out contracts and a ton of them used the amnesty clause. It's KOC and Greggy Boy holding to the company line that no one ever gets free money from them. I think everyone overestimated Raja's value. Even IF a team wants him, they're likely to only pay the absolute minimum (what is that, about $1.5M?). I believe Raja's contract this season is $3.5M. Unless/until a team actually puts a guaranteed offer in front of Raja, I don't blame him for rejecting a buyout for any amount less than full price. And I say that as a Raja-hater.
 
Xsy said:
I can't wait for the jeers the next time Raja plays in Utah. I'm usually a respectful guy of ex Jazz players, but screw Raja.
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That necessitates another team picking him up.
 
Break him. Make him come back run two a days or whatever. Fine him for being out of shape. Make him sit in a suit behind the bench. Never let him near the court. Have the cameras focus in on him at awkward times. Send Steve Brown to ask him questions like " what is it like to be a proud veteran sitting here watching these young guys make mistakes?" In all press releases spell his name Roger. Send him to Lake Point, American Fork and Syracuse to hand out tickets and meet the common man fans, let the people have a chance to talk with him. Move his locker to the far end of the room next to a noisy air vent, instead of a name plat scratch something on duct tape. Post that subway commercial on you-tube, send the link to Kobe. Tell him he is going to play, let him warm up and then just before tip off tell him never mind put your suit back on . Tell the parking lot attendant to leave his car in the snow, not to scrape the windshield and never warm it up. Fine him whenever he is late to practise or team meetings. When he asks for a sit down with KOC, schedule it for 5:30 Am the morning after a long road trip, or at 1:45 in the middle of three off days. Tell him KOC was called away at the last minute, but Randy Rigby wants to talk with him for two hours. Have the road manager lose his hotel key a couple times. Hey has anybody seen Roger's suitcase? Have the front desk give him a courtesy wake up call at 5 am. Or send the groupies to his room while he's on the phone talking to home. Have his wife's free seats be on row 43 in the nw corner of ESA. Give the rest of the tickets in row 43 and all of row 42 to junior jazz teams.

At the trade deadline give Toronto a 2nd round pick and cash to take him. Raja will love having to get a visa and pay all those taxes. Fine him if he doesn't report.
 
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mellow said:
Break him. Make him come back run two a days or whatever. Fine him for being out of shape. Make him sit in a suit behind the bench. Never let him near the court. Have the cameras focus in on him at awkward times. Send Steve Brown to ask him questions like " what is it like to be a proud veteran sitting here watching these young guys make mistakes?" In all press releases spell his name Roger. Send him to Lake Point, American Fork and Syracuse to hand out tickets and meet the common man fans, let the people have a chance to talk with him. Move his locker to the far end of the room next to a noisy air vent, instead of a name plat scratch something on duct tape. Post that subway commercial on you-tube, send the link to Kobe. Tell the parking lot attendant to leave his car in the snow, not to scrape the windshield and never warm it up. Fine him whenever he is late to practise or team meetings. When he asks for a sit down with KOC, schedule it for 5:30 Am the morning after a long road trip, or at 1:45 in the middle of three off days. Have the road manager lose his hotel key a couple times. Hey has anybody seen Roger's suitcase? Have the front desk give him a courtesy wake up call at 5 am. At the trade deadline give Toronto a 2nd round pick and cash to take him. Raja will love having to get a visa and pay all those taxes. Fine him if he doesn't report.
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Make the Jazz bear fight him every half-time!
 
mellow said:
Break him. Make him come back run two a days or whatever. Fine him for being out of shape. Make him sit in a suit behind the bench. Never let him near the court. Have the cameras focus in on him at awkward times. Send Steve Brown to ask him questions like " what is it like to be a proud veteran sitting here watching these young guys make mistakes?" In all press releases spell his name Roger. Send him to Lake Point, American Fork and Syracuse to hand out tickets and meet the common man fans, let the people have a chance to talk with him. Move his locker to the far end of the room next to a noisy air vent, instead of a name plat scratch something on duct tape. Post that subway commercial on you-tube, send the link to Kobe. Tell him he is going to play, let him warm up and then just before tip off tell him never mind put your suit back on . Tell the parking lot attendant to leave his car in the snow, not to scrape the windshield and never warm it up. Fine him whenever he is late to practise or team meetings. When he asks for a sit down with KOC, schedule it for 5:30 Am the morning after a long road trip, or at 1:45 in the middle of three off days. Tell him KOC was called away at the last minute, but Randy Halsem wants to talk with him for two hours. Have the road manager lose his hotel key a couple times. Hey has anybody seen Roger's suitcase? Have the front desk give him a courtesy wake up call at 5 am. Or send the groupies to his room while he's on the phone talking to home. Have his wife's free seats be on row 43 in the nw corner of ESA.

At the trade deadline give Toronto a 2nd round pick and cash to take him. Raja will love having to get a visa and pay all those taxes. Fine him if he doesn't report.
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Dude... this is spiteful and angry and hateful. I love it.

I'm not quite that big a jerk, but really.. mad props, bra.
 
mellow said:
Break him. Make him come back run two a days or whatever. Fine him for being out of shape. Make him sit in a suit behind the bench. Never let him near the court. Have the cameras focus in on him at awkward times. Send Steve Brown to ask him questions like " what is it like to be a proud veteran sitting here watching these young guys make mistakes?" In all press releases spell his name Roger. Send him to Lake Point, American Fork and Syracuse to hand out tickets and meet the common man fans, let the people have a chance to talk with him. Move his locker to the far end of the room next to a noisy air vent, instead of a name plat scratch something on duct tape. Post that subway commercial on you-tube, send the link to Kobe. Tell him he is going to play, let him warm up and then just before tip off tell him never mind put your suit back on . Tell the parking lot attendant to leave his car in the snow, not to scrape the windshield and never warm it up. Fine him whenever he is late to practise or team meetings. When he asks for a sit down with KOC, schedule it for 5:30 Am the morning after a long road trip, or at 1:45 in the middle of three off days. Tell him KOC was called away at the last minute, but Randy Halsem wants to talk with him for two hours. Have the road manager lose his hotel key a couple times. Hey has anybody seen Roger's suitcase? Have the front desk give him a courtesy wake up call at 5 am. Or send the groupies to his room while he's on the phone talking to home. Have his wife's free seats be on row 43 in the nw corner of ESA.

At the trade deadline give Toronto a 2nd round pick and cash to take him. Raja will love having to get a visa and pay all those taxes. Fine him if he doesn't report.
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Post of the year.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
How would amnesty have hurt Bell? I thought the advantages of amnesty were that his salary wouldn't count against the cap and that if another team signed him that would reduce the amount we have to pay him.
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Bell didn't want to go through the amnesty process for fear another team would place a bid. In that scenario, however unlikely, he would have no say in whatever team bid on him, and couldn't be traded from that team for the year. Secondly, the teams he WANTS to play for are over the cap and can't bid so amnesty can only screw him.
 
Raja to KOC: "I know you can either amnesty me or buy me out. If you don't mind, do you think you could buy me out so that I can choose a contender to play for?"

KOC to Raja: "Whatever gets you off my roster"

Raja to contenders: "I'd love to help you compete for a title, whataya say?"

Contenders to Raja: "We're considered "contenders" for a reason. No thanks"

Raja to KOC: "Apparently I suck worse than I thought... Now pay me bi***"
 
margodydek said:
Raja to KOC: "I know you can either amnesty me or buy me out. If you don't mind, do you think you could buy me out so that I can choose a contender to player for?"

KOC to Raja: "Whatever gets you off my roster"

Raja to contenders: "I'd love to help you compete for a title, whataya say?"

Contenders to Raja: "We're considered "contenders" for a reason. No thanks"

Raja to KOC: "Apparently I suck worse than I thought... Now pay me bi***"
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How did you get access to these conversations? Raja and his agent keep it close to the vest.
 
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