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Not me. I hate what most of the freedom of speech promoters stand for and feel it's not in line with the spirit of what the founding fathers intended.
 
The church removed them in the 1990s I believe. Wonder if some of the mormons calling posting of this video offensive supported the showing of the Mohammad video that caused all the ruckus in the middle east? I certainly remembering a lot of republicans defending the posting because of freedom of speech issues.

They can post the videos (this and the Muslim one) but that does not mean they should. Both were idiotic videos and the makers should be ashamed of themselves.
 
I agree that the video shouldn't be posted but I do see some hypocrisy in why it shouldn't. I think people should try to respect everyone's belief even if their belief is not to believe.
 
That's true of pretty much any group that demands a high degree of loyalty. ex-JWs are far more bitter than ex-Mormons, AFAICT. then there are ex-ESTers, ex-Randians, etc.

Way to stereotype a whole group of people. Just because someone no longer agrees with your belief doesn't make them a hater. I know plenty of religious people both mormon and non-mormon who have no problem attacking what I believe or telling me I am going to hell. Some of the most self-righteous, bitter, angry people I have met were sitting next to me in church when I use to go.
 
I agree that the video shouldn't be posted but I do see some hypocrisy in why it shouldn't. I think people should try to respect everyone's belief even if their belief is not to believe.

If we are saying the same thing about both videos where do you see the hypocrisy?
 
Okay so he did fire it and hit people but he was retaliating form being fired at and after they killed Hyrum.

This would be an interesting poll to see if people knew that Joseph Smith shot at people in Jail. I think most knew he had a gun but not that he fired it. I could be wrong though.

I think the problem with Joseph Smith history (along with all history especially religous) is that non-LDS dont really except LDS history since they have an angle in telling their side of the story. On the other hand other historians at the time seemed to be anti-mormon and they also are telling the story the way they want people to see it. You dont really have many neutral accounts of what happened. People have a reason to tell their version of a story.

I can tell you that I never knew Joseph had a gun. I don't recall any film or discussion about it. I was a member from 1969 to 1989.
 
I would like to ask an off-topic question about the LDS church, and I don't want to start another thread and get accused of stirring **** up again.

I know someone who joined the church last year and found it not to be to her liking. She looked up information of how to officially leave, and she was told that she could send a letter asking for her name to be removed from their member's records. The source warns however that she could be excommunicated instead of simply removed. She's wondering about the differences between the two. Why would it matter whether she got excommunicated if all she wants is to leave the church?

All your friend has to do is inform the church that you are resigning from the church and you want to have your named removed from the records and do not want to be contacted. Make sure to include legal action if the churches tries to slander your name by classifying it as an excommunication. The difference is in perception.

If the church says you were excommunicated they are implying that you committed a moral sin worthy of excommunication instead of using your own free will to leave the church. For me the difference is personal, because I left the church, the church did not kick me out. I have my letter to prove it if any person questions the reason.
 
You ever stop to wonder why so many exmormons are bitter about the church?
Why would I? Who the hell cares? You obviously I guess. There's gotta be a million reasons. That doesn't matter but what does matter is that ex-Mormons are some bitter MFs as you can see in this thread and on this board and in general anyway.

Curiosity and interest my ***.
 
Why would I? Who the hell cares? You obviously I guess. There's gotta be a million reasons. That doesn't matter but what does matter is that ex-Mormons are some bitter MFs as you can see in this thread and on this board and in general anyway.

Curiosity and interest my ***.

I learned from Ecclesiastes that there is a time for everything.

The time for you to stop posting in this thread has come.

TIA
 
Almost every freind I have nowadays is a Mormon. I have a great deal of respect for the individuals. Though I don't subscribe to the doctrine, I have a great deal of respect for the LDS church as an extremely well run entity.

When I picture, in my mind's eye, the Mormon that gets on my nerves (and there have been only about 3 I have met in the last 7 years), it's the one that takes something/anything/everything small that could possibly be considered persecution and makes it into a mountain, gladly. With a half-smile/smirk they accept something otherwise insignificant as heaping piles of persecution and get puffed up about this being further evidence of the one true church.

What I just described is a rarity among an otherwise hard-working, well-meaning, good-living bunch of people .. and also describes a small group of people within all religions.
 
When I picture, in my mind's eye, the Mormon that gets on my nerves (and there have been only about 3 I have met in the last 7 years), it's the one that takes something/anything/everything small that could possibly be considered persecution and makes it into a mountain, gladly. With a half-smile/smirk they accept something otherwise insignificant as heaping piles of persecution and get puffed up about this being further evidence of the one true church.
When I picture, in my mind's eye, the anti-Mormon that sucks (and there are many), it's the ones that take every opportunity big or small to take a shot at the Church gladly. With a half-smile/smirk they take something otherwise insignificant and try to turn it into the most damning thing possible for the Church in an effort to make it look bad. And hey if that's your bag then fine. More power to you you miserable *******. But way too many high-horsed, bitter antis in here trying to claim innocence when it is clearly obvious they are not here to discuss or debate. They are here to revile.

Have some intellectual honesty about your intentions here, Fellas. And don't be such nancies when someone calls you out on it.
 
If Conan is so mormon maybe he should take his religions advice and be less of a bitch and more of a missionary.
 
I agree with that. Definitely a lot of wrath being directed my way and a soft answer maybe gets those guys to relax. But I've always admitted my faults here and that's a big one. I have zero finesse I just call it like I see it. It hurts peoples' feelings. Some say that's why I'm a good teacher. But obviously it doesn't make for good message board chat. Or being a good Mormon example. But I've never claimed I was anyway.
 
When I picture, in my mind's eye, the anti-Mormon that sucks (and there are many), it's the ones that take every opportunity big or small to take a shot at the Church gladly. With a half-smile/smirk they take something otherwise insignificant and try to turn it into the most damning thing possible for the Church in an effort to make it look bad. And hey if that's your bag then fine. More power to you you miserable *******. But way too many high-horsed, bitter antis in here trying to claim innocence when it is clearly obvious they are not here to discuss or debate. They are here to revile.

Have some intellectual honesty about your intentions here, Fellas. And don't be such nancies when someone calls you out on it.

I for one don't say anything bad about the church or 99% of its members. Those I do have any grievance with is not directed at their faith, but rather their personality/character.
I am no anti .. in fact, there was a time when a Kentucky message board started on an anti-Mormon slant (during the Presidential campaigning) and I wrote paragraphs and paragraphs about all the incorrect assumptions that were being thrown around. In short, I vehemently defended the people of LDS faith. Am I looking for kudos? Of course not, or I would have brought this up much sooner. I am only making the statement that I am not an anti, and you even suggesting that based on my post proves to me that you are either one of 'those' I described before, or simply a good troll.
 
I agree with that. Definitely a lot of wrath being directed my way and a soft answer maybe gets those guys to relax. But I've always admitted my faults here and that's a big one. I have zero finesse I just call it like I see it. It hurts peoples' feelings. Some say that's why I'm a good teacher. But obviously it doesn't make for good message board chat. Or being a good Mormon example. But I've never claimed I was anyway.

Well at times being blunt and direct is a good thing. I will give you that but as another scriputre says "...there is a time for all things..."

There is a time to be blunt and a time not to be.
 
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