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The Gordon Hayward mistake has screwed the Jazz for years to come

This is B.S. So what if George turns out to be better. They're both good picks and any team would love to have them, just like with DWill and Paul.

Yet the Pacers' roster is no better than the Jazz.'

So either...

A) Paul George is a much better player than Gordon Hayward.
B) Paul George is a winner and Gordon Hayward isn't.
C) Both A and B
 
FINAL WESTERN CONFERENCE 2013 NBA ALL-STAR VOTING RESULTS

Backcourt: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,591,437, Chris Paul (LAC) 929,155, Jeremy Lin (Hou) 883,809, James Harden (Hou) 485,986, Russell Westbrook (OKC) 376,411, Steve Nash (LAL) 270,741, Tony Parker (SA) 176,168, Stephen Curry (GS) 169,083, Ricky Rubio (Min) 150,227, Manu Ginobili (SA) 118,293

Frontcourt: Kevin Durant (OKC) 1,504,047, Dwight Howard (LAL) 922,070, Blake Griffin (LAC) 863,832, Tim Duncan (SA) 492,373, Pau Gasol (LAL) 310,845, Kevin Love (Min) 283,458, Omer Asik (Hou) 240,467, Serge Ibaka (OKC) 197,063, Rudy Gay (Mem) 182,523, David Lee (GS) 165,875, LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 160,197, Marc Gasol (Mem) 153,459, Zach Randolph (Mem) 146,980, Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 145,776, Chandler Parsons (Hou) 144,697

Gordon Hayward is nowhere to be found.
 
FINAL WESTERN CONFERENCE 2013 NBA ALL-STAR VOTING RESULTS

Backcourt: Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,591,437, Chris Paul (LAC) 929,155, Jeremy Lin (Hou) 883,809, James Harden (Hou) 485,986, Russell Westbrook (OKC) 376,411, Steve Nash (LAL) 270,741, Tony Parker (SA) 176,168, Stephen Curry (GS) 169,083, Ricky Rubio (Min) 150,227, Manu Ginobili (SA) 118,293

Frontcourt: Kevin Durant (OKC) 1,504,047, Dwight Howard (LAL) 922,070, Blake Griffin (LAC) 863,832, Tim Duncan (SA) 492,373, Pau Gasol (LAL) 310,845, Kevin Love (Min) 283,458, Omer Asik (Hou) 240,467, Serge Ibaka (OKC) 197,063, Rudy Gay (Mem) 182,523, David Lee (GS) 165,875, LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 160,197, Marc Gasol (Mem) 153,459, Zach Randolph (Mem) 146,980, Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 145,776, Chandler Parsons (Hou) 144,697

You sound smart. Where have you been?

Gordon Hayward is nowhere to be found.

You sound smart. Where have you been?
 
Gordon Hayward is a great player. He just isn't the guy you want going one on one at the end of a game. He is better at creating for others.
 
3-8-2013

Tonight was a microcosm of the situation facing the two teams. Playoff-bound Indiana faced Orlando, while Utah faced Chicago.

Paul George (27 minutes)
25 points (8-12 from the field, 4-5 from three)
5 rebounds
3 assists
1 steal

Gordon Hayward (28 minutes)
5 points (2-6 from the field, 0-1 from three)
1 rebound
1 assist
1 steal
 
AS a JAZZFAN what are you expecting from Kanter to convince you, that he was the better pick ?

Nothing more than what I already saw from him ( or JV ). It is only matter of time now. I give them both 3 years to either prove me wrong or right.
 
Hayward's a good player.

What I don't get is why it's so hard for some of you to admit that George is the better player and should have been the one picked?
 
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You can't seriously believe this. Go back and look at the draft thread and realize that most of the guys we were clamoring for would have been significantly worse than Hayward. I'd rather have George, but it could have been SO much worse.

Plus, if you really want to do this you can go back every single draft and do the exact same thing. If any team drafted perfectly, they'd win every year.
Agree. Out of all the players available, KOC picked 1 out of the 3 that has done well in the league thus far. I remember there were quite a few that wanted X. Henry, Patterson, Babbitt or Aldrich. George would have been fantastic. Hayward and Bledsoe are both very good. Other than those 3...not so good a draft from #9 down. It truly was a weak draft. That KOC managed to get a decent player says a lot about his ability.
 
Only in Utah would skin color be an issue when it comes to drafting and it was when the Jazz drafted Gordon Hayward (#9) one pick before NBA all-star Paul George (#10).

They play the same positions. SG and SF.

George was/is bigger, taller, longer, more skilled, more athletic and more talented.

Hayward looks like a Mormon choir boy.

Easy choice for the Jazz. You go with the Mormon choir boy.

3 years later...

One player becomes an NBA all-star. The other player is the definition of NBA mediocrity.

Paul George averages 16.9 PTs per 36. Hayward averages 18.4. George gets more rebounds, and has teammates who play defense and a coach who plays his best players. Is George a good player? He's great. But so is Hayward. So your argument doesn't work. If you want to argue this then you should also argue that the jazz screwed themselves by not offering the max to lebron James in free agency.
 
The Pacers don't have an offensive-minded center who uses a lot of possessions. If this were the case here, Hayward would probably be starting and putting up George-esque numbers.
 
The Pacers don't have an offensive-minded center who uses a lot of possessions. If this were the case here, Hayward would probably be starting and putting up George-esque numbers.

But Hayward does put up numbers like George. He is more efficient offensively. The only thing George does better numbers wise is rebound. ( probably a better defender too ). Hayward's per 36 points are better. If he got the Sam minutes as George then he would be considered just as good.
 
But Hayward does put up numbers like George. He is more efficient offensively. The only thing George does better numbers wise is rebound. ( probably a better defender too ). Hayward's per 36 points are better. If he got the Sam minutes as George then he would be considered just as good.

I meant per game, since Hayward would probably play more.
 
3-8-2013

Tonight was a microcosm of the situation facing the two teams. Playoff-bound Indiana faced Orlando, while Utah faced Chicago.

Paul George (27 minutes)
25 points (8-12 from the field, 4-5 from three)
5 rebounds
3 assists
1 steal

Gordon Hayward (28 minutes)
5 points (2-6 from the field, 0-1 from three)
1 rebound
1 assist
1 steal

I'd rather have George, but do we really need to explain why this is a silly argument?
 
14 ppg. 3.0 rpg. 2.6 apg. 0.8 spg. 42% fg.

Mediocre numbers. NOT an all-star. A catastrophic mistake.

Would have been nice to see all-star Paul George in a Jazz uniform (have fun watching George in the NBA playoffs), but the Jazz needed a Mormon choir boy for the community (or a player who looks like one).

The Gordon Hayward Jazz are in a tailspin..................................

.................falling...................................... out of the playoffs.

It's not about winning. It's about community!
 
14 ppg. 3.0 rpg. 2.6 apg. 0.8 spg. 42% fg.

Mediocre numbers. NOT an all-star. A catastrophic mistake.

Would have been nice to see all-star Paul George in a Jazz uniform (have fun watching George in the NBA playoffs), but the Jazz needed a Mormon choir boy for the community (or a player who looks like one).

The Gordon Hayward Jazz are in a tailspin..................................

.................falling...................................... out of the playoffs.

It's not about winning. It's about community!

Billy goat gruff kicked your butt.
 
14 ppg. 3.0 rpg. 2.6 apg. 0.8 spg. 42% fg.

Mediocre numbers. NOT an all-star. A catastrophic mistake.

Would have been nice to see all-star Paul George in a Jazz uniform (have fun watching George in the NBA playoffs), but the Jazz needed a Mormon choir boy for the community (or a player who looks like one).

The Gordon Hayward Jazz are in a tailspin..................................

.................falling...................................... out of the playoffs.

It's not about winning. It's about community!
LMAO. This has got to be one of the funniest/stupidest posts I've read on here, ever. Great stuff Cyclo continue to show us how funny/stupid you can be.
 
Time to put cyclo out of his misery. A quote from a Brandon Knight thread. Even if you would have picked George over Hayward (I didn't check), you would have drafted us the biggest bust in the lottery in 2011. You are smarter than KOC, no, I really mean it....

Jan Vesely is going to be an all-star in this league.

He's a super athletic 6'11" inside/outside scoring machine and explosive as heck.

His 39 inch vertical leap is incredible for a 6'11" player.

Much better prospect than Danilo Gallinari ever was and he's turned out to be a darn good NBA player.
 
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