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Following potential 2013 draftees

Catchall said:
I do like Schroeder, but I'd have a hard time passing on Giannis or Isaiah Austin at #14 for him. Those are serious upside picks.

It's going to be interesting to see how the Jazz put their draft board together. I have to think they'd have McCollum ranked higher than Schroeder, in part because McCollum is older and is ready to play now. Schroeder, while a good prospect, isn't so great that you draft him and wait on him for 3 years to develop. Schroeder at @21 would be a no-brainer.

I think this is what my Jazz Big Board would probably look like:

1 Noel
2 McLemore
3 Porter
4 Burke
5 Bennett
6 Oladipo
7 Shabazz
8 Zeller
9 McCollum
10 Austin
11 Adetokunbo
12 Olynyk
13 Schroeder
14 Adams/Gobert/Caldwell-Pope
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Switch Bazz and Bennett. Switch Adetokunbo to 12, Schroder to 11, and Olynyk at 13 and it looks pretty good.
 
NBN said:
Switch Bazz and Bennett. Switch Adetokunbo to 12, Schroder to 11, and Olynyk at 13 and it looks pretty good.
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No.. don't switch Bazz and Bennett.. that's crazy.

Don't like Caldwell-Pope in the discussion... but very good list Catchall.
 
PKM said:
No.. don't switch Bazz and Bennett.. that's crazy.

Don't like Caldwell-Pope in the discussion... but very good list Catchall.
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Agree. It's as good a list as any I've seen. There's very little difference between many of these players. I think this draft will come down to combining need WITH BPA for many teams. Jaz could go in quite a few directions: we need a 3rd big, a SF and a young PG.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Not sure we should fall head over heels for the German dude compared to what we can get next year and this year with the 21st pick or even the second round pick this year as far as pg talent goes. His shooting scares me and ability to finish. Still would rather get the GF or CJ with 14, and bpa with 21.
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Well the thing is though, he Schroeder went head to head against Kasey Hill who some of us had a hard-on over (including me and AlexBurks_PGgods, amongst others). Schroeder is slightly older, but he completely outplayed Hill in this game IMO. Physically Schroeder had a bigger frame, was better defensively, controls the game better and was just more mature out there on the court. They both had pretty similar speed & quickness though it seems. But Hill was quite a bit smaller... I would say Schroeder held his own against Andrew Harrison as well.

Now, Hill is a projected lotto pick next year if I'm not mistaken in a loaded draft? So if we can get Schroeder at #14 in this much weaker draft I think it would be a bargain. Granted, we're taking on a bit of a project, but early signs are there that he could be a legit talent.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Well the thing is though, he Schroeder went head to head against Kasey Hill who some of us had a hard-on over (including me and AlexBurks_PGgods, amongst others). Schroeder is slightly older, but he completely outplayed Hill in this game IMO. Physically Schroeder had a bigger frame, was better defensively, controls the game better and was just more mature out there on the court. They both had pretty similar speed & quickness though it seems. But Hill was quite a bit smaller... I would say Schroeder held his own against Andrew Harrison as well.

Now, Hill is a projected lotto pick next year if I'm not mistaken in a loaded draft? So if we can get Schroeder at #14 in this much weaker draft I think it would be a bargain. Granted, we're taking on a bit of a project, but early signs are there that he could be a legit talent.
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Remember that one game Patty Mills had over CP3?

KABONGO
 
orangello said:
No, that is not what I was getting at.

This situation reminds me of POGS back in the day. I saw them one day, wanted them and the spent the next 6 months of my life trying to get more and more POGS to the point that I made my own.

Today POGS are a fun memory but didn't do anything for my life.
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orangello said:
I took a page out of Hottie hot hot's book.
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Good effort! But you can still do better. Keep improving. Each day is a new dawn, is a new day. I'll be rooting for you.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Remember that one game Patty Mills had over CP3?

KABONGO
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Your comparison of Schroeder to Bongo is noted.

I'd like to add though that Schroeder is nearly 2 years younger and quite a bit quicker & faster (as far as I can tell anyway). His change of speed is already better than Bongo was before he got injured. Most of all though, I've also been impressed by Schroeder's maturity and leadership skill. If you saw the game, he was running his team out there yesterday. He wasn't just dishing out assists and making shots. He was orchestrating his team, controlling the pace/tempo of the game - which is something Burke got much better on in his Soph. year.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Your comparison of Schroeder to Bongo is noted.

I'd like to add though that Schroeder is nearly 2 years younger and quite a bit quicker & faster (as far as I can tell anyway). His change of speed is already better than Bongo was before he got injured. Most of all though, I've also been impressed by Schroeder's maturity and leadership skill. If you saw the game, he was running his team out there yesterday. He wasn't just dishing out assists and making shots. He was orchestrating his team, controlling the pace/tempo of the game - which is something Burke got much better on in his Soph. year.
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16 months older. Closer to a year if we are rounding.

Kabongo is alos a much better finisher around the rim, and has a left hand. We really want someone who can't shoot or finish? At least Bongo has one of those things. Not to mention he shoots 80% from the FT line.
 
NUMBERICA said:
What ****ing math class did you learn that in?
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Probably kindergarten?

18 months would be 1.5 years, and you would round up to two.

16 months would be 1.33, so you round down to 1.

*Couldn't tell if you were disagreeing with me, or being sarcastic*
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
16 months older. Closer to a year if we are rounding.

Kabongo is alos a much better finisher around the rim, and has a left hand. We really want someone who can't shoot or finish? At least Bongo has one of those things. Not to mention he shoots 80% from the FT line.
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Well Schroeder is 84% at the FT this year through 33 games, and 40% on 3pt (on 41-102 shooting).

Like I said yesterday, only if I'm confident that his shooting is legit - I'd take him at #14.

The left hand thing I've been told can be corrected.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Well Schroeder is 84% at the FT this year through 33 games, and 40% on 3pt (on 41-102 shooting).

Like I said yesterday, only if I'm confident that his shooting is legit - I'd take him at #14.

The left hand thing I've been told can be corrected.
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Where you get #'s?
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Probably kindergarten?

18 months would be 1.5 years, and you would round up to two.

16 months would be 1.33, so you round down to 1.

*Couldn't tell if you were disagreeing with me, or being sarcastic*
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Kabongo: 01/12/1992
Schroeder: 09/15/1993

By my calculation, that's 12 + 8 = 20 months? Where do you get your 16 months from?
 
Never-mind, I found his updated stats.

He does seem to be a very good FT shooter.


Any Euro's know the level of competition his league is?
 
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