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Following potential 2013 draftees

Vermin said:
I agree we need a PG now, but I dont think that he is in this draft. That is why I advocate taking BPA and working on a deal to bring us the young PG we covet. Think Houston. They compiled assests and landed a top 10 player. We should be thinking the same way.
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That is easily the most compelling part of your argument.
 
Two seasons ago.. I wanted to play the young guys (what some people called tanking, but I called playing for the future), get a nice draft pick (last year) and go ALL in for an elite PG. We'd have the supporting cast with experience and the cap room to sign a PG to a big deal.. we ****ed that up and now we're talking about drafting two ****ty PG's and hope one turns out to be decent so we can continue to bathe in our bubble bath of mediocrity.
 
And just for clarification, GVC's scenario is the only one where Teague is acquired for money, talent, or both going out that wouldn't be lunacy. Atlanta has more cap space than the Jazz do (thanks Marvin for Devin trade).
 
Vermin said:
The Jazz scouts rocked it that year. Next three after koufus-

1) Ibaka
2) Batum
3) George Hill

Leave it to the pros.....they know what they are doing.
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Ouch.

I try to stay optomistic about the Jazz, but I have a real hard time understanding what this team has done in the draft in almost every year since 1986. I have a real hope that Dennis Lindsey will change that. It is that hope that burns in my soul like a small blue flame pushing back the darkness that would consume my Jazz fanness.

After all, Lindsey came from Houston and San Antonio--two teams that have had much more success in the draft than the Jazz, and have made smarter decisions on players than the Jazz. There is hope. There has to be because I don't want to consider the alternative.
 
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One consequence of drafting a big is it would mean Favors would be the permanent PF, and his defensive impact would take a small hit.
Kanter is going to have to play center against most teams, and the crop of Austin, Adams, Withey, Dieng, Gobert, Olynyk, Jaiteh, Nogueira, etc are all likely centers. A good problem to have though....maybe.
 
orangello said:
Here is an updated mock-

https://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Sucky if you ask me.
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What's the deal with the jazz having the 16th pick in the 2end round? Shouldn't they have the 14th just like in the first round? What the hell!!!!!!!
orangello said:
It has the Jazz drafting two big men and a SG. That makes a lot of sense for this team. NOT!
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I don't think they are doing the mock yet according to who they think the teams will pick, but is more of a player ranking
Vermin said:
The Jazz scouts rocked it that year. Next three after koufus-

1) Ibaka
2) Batum
3) George Hill

Leave it to the pros.....they know what they are doing.
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Wow! A three man rotation of Favors Kanter and Ibaka would be something to behold.
bigmike said:
We've been complete **** at the PG spot for two seasons now. The time has come to get an impact player at the position. That's really my only goal for the offseason - just get your franchise PG, whoever you think that might be - Burke, McCollum, Schroder, Bledsoe, Teague, etc.

We have two first-round picks, two expiring bigs with good S&T potential, and a lot of cap room. If we enter 2013-2014 without our PG of the future on the roster, that's a huge fail.
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don't see an impact player at pg.
Vermin said:
I agree we need a PG now, but I dont think that he is in this draft. That is why I advocate taking BPA and working on a deal to bring us the young PG we covet. Think Houston. They compiled assests and landed a top 10 player. We should be thinking the same way.
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I've said it once, I've said it a million times, I hate this rep system, sorry Vermin unable to rep this very astute post.
 
PKM said:
On second thought.. what I said applies, regardless. I always believe in BPA with the tie-breaker being team need.. but this year just feels like this big collective hodgepodge of suckage.
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That's my philosophy.
And in what I - and most people - believe is a weak draft, the Jazz need to have the philosophy of getting players who will be productive. The likelihood of finding starters or even a great 6th man is remote. Go the Millsap route - get players who have shown a marketable NBA skill or who have been effective in college. If one of them eventually turns into a Millsap, then fantastic. If not, the Jazz will have players who can get spot minutes (like a Jeremy Evans) and are on cheap contracts.

I've said a few times that the Jazz need to work on a core 8: 3-4 guards and 3-4 forwards/centers. A couple of those will be swing players (like a Burks or Favors or Hayward who can play multiple positions). We have 4 core players. I think the Jazz can afford to sign or trade for another 2 significant veterans. That leaves Utah needing to find 2 good rookies between this draft and next.
 
mellow said:
Ouch.

I try to stay optomistic about the Jazz, but I have a real hard time understanding what this team has done in the draft in almost every year since 1986. I have a real hope that Dennis Lindsey will change that. It is that hope that burns in my soul like a small blue flame pushing back the darkness that would consume my Jazz fanness.

After all, Lindsey came from Houston and San Antonio--two teams that have had much more success in the draft than the Jazz, and have made smarter decisions on players than the Jazz. There is hope. There has to be because I don't want to consider the alternative.
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We share that same flame brother, we share that same flame.

Rep'd.
 
Xthren said:
draft is going to be McCollum and Karasev in the first and Mike Muscala in the second
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I'm not that big on Karasev, but I'm sure I'd find a way to get happy about it.

Lets be honest...whoever we draft, we're all going to convince ourselves it was the right choice. Hell, people on here were convinced that Murphy was going to be a valuable piece of our rotation throughout the year.
 
Hantlers said:
I'm not that big on Karasev, but I'm sure I'd find a way to get happy about it.

Lets be honest...whoever we draft, we're all going to convince ourselves it was the right choice. Hell, people on here were convinced that Murphy was going to be a valuable piece of our rotation throughout the year.
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Nope. I'm more likely to hate the pick, tbh. Like I did the Hayward pick.
 
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