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PearlWatson said:
I hate to break it to you but it sounds like she used you to support her and the kids while she went to school to became more self sufficient, and get bigger boobs. I doubt she had any intention of staying in this marriage. She probably has had a stud on the side this whole time.
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Wow. Little low, PW.
 
I hate to weigh in because I know Chris personally....

But my guess is everything has been fine for a long time but recently some guy started sweet talking... and I think she had a friend (girl) that was a poison. I feel dirty because none of this is my business (Chris didn't ask us to speculate in this way).
 
Gameface said:
I'm sure everyone who does it feels like they have a very good reason. Forcing them to prove how good their reason is to people whose culture and values may be different, or it might just be that their perspective is different, otherwise forcing them to continue a marriage with a human being they don't want to be married to is sick and wrong. No less.

Is it still legal to force your wife to have sex with you in some states?

Anyway, what constitutes cause? Sounds like a can of worms we don't need big government getting involved in.
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It really ain't about the selfish ******* anymore once he/she chooses to have kids within the marriage.

The government is involved in the first place in order to protect the kids.
 
Well, I'm generalizing but from what I've seen a woman who's not being mistreated pretty bad usually has a place to land before she decides to jump.
 
PKM said:
I hate to weigh in because I know Chris personally....

But my guess is everything has been fine for a long time but recently some guy started sweet talking... and I think she had a friend (girl) that was a poison. I feel dirty because none of this is my business (Chris didn't ask us to speculate in this way).
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The same thing happened to my brother-in-law. He lived with his HS girlfriend for a while, got married, and lived happily for several years. One day he tells us he's getting divorced. Turns out she got some new friends and started hanging out with them. They poisoned her into thinking all sorts of nasty crap about him that simply was false.
 
I don't know for sure, but most of the theories you guys are throwing out have a bit of truth to them. She has been hanging out with new friends the last 6 months-year. The kind of people that aren't doing **** with their lives, but are fun to party with. And I think she misses that. She doesn't want to be tied down. I don't think there is another man she has feelings for. It's just frustrating. So much pain and suffering over something so stupid. I honestly believe she will want me back in a few years when she gets it out of her system, but it will be too late. Such a shame for my children.
 
Chris-L said:
I don't know for sure, but most of the theories you guys are throwing out have a bit of truth to them. She has been hanging out with new friends the last 6 months-year. The kind of people that aren't doing **** with their lives, but are fun to party with. And I think she misses that. She doesn't want to be tied down. I don't think there is another man she has feelings for. It's just frustrating. So much pain and suffering over something so stupid. I honestly believe she will want me back in a few years when she gets it out of her system, but it will be too late. Such a shame for my children.
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It's not your fault, man.
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Honestly sounds like a ****ty situation.
As for the college loans, I'm no Bob Loblaw, but you shouldn't be responsible for those.
She knows that those loans are going to rape her later on in life and she just wants to rape you before they rape her.

You also shouldn't have to pay for boobs that you don't get to enjoy.
 
Chris-L said:
I don't know for sure, but most of the theories you guys are throwing out have a bit of truth to them. She has been hanging out with new friends the last 6 months-year. The kind of people that aren't doing **** with their lives, but are fun to party with. And I think she misses that. She doesn't want to be tied down. I don't think there is another man she has feelings for. It's just frustrating. So much pain and suffering over something so stupid. I honestly believe she will want me back in a few years when she gets it out of her system, but it will be too late. Such a shame for my children.
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You mentioned 4 children, and one of whom you referred to as a "step-daughter" and that your wife was pregnant with this child at the time you married her. Seems a little puzzling to me, if you are the "only father" this child has ever known, that she would be referred to as a step-daughter.

Perhaps neither here nor there, but it does make your relationship seem like it might have had issues from the beginning. How long were you married? You mentioned things were good for 6 years or so - - is that about how long you've been married?

Good luck. From what you've said, I don't think you owe her anything. I hope you both can have a mature attitude about this for your children's sakes.
 
moevillini said:
You mentioned 4 children, and one of whom you referred to as a "step-daughter" and that your wife was pregnant with this child at the time you married her. Seems a little puzzling to me, if you are the "only father" this child has ever known, that she would be referred to as a step-daughter.

Perhaps neither here nor there, but it does make your relationship seem like it might have had issues from the beginning. How long were you married? You mentioned things were good for 6 years or so - - is that about how long you've been married?

Good luck. From what you've said, I don't think you owe her anything. I hope you both can have a mature attitude about this for your children's sakes.
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I put the "step" in parenthesis for perspective. Legally, I have no rights to 2 of my children. I never thought she would go there, but she is holding that over my head now and saying I can't have them. I felt it was important to clarify that to people who don't know me personally. She wasn't pregant when I married her. I met my wife a couple weeks after she had the baby. We dated for 2 years and have been married for 5.
 
sorry if my wording is throwing you off, we have a very unique, blended family. i've never referred to any of my children as anything other than my son or daughters. the topic of my post was legal matters. just making sure i made it clear where the lines are drawn, legally.
 
Chris-L said:
I put the "step" in parenthesis for perspective. Legally, I have no rights to 2 of my children. I never thought she would go there, but she is holding that over my head now and saying I can't have them. I felt it was important to clarify that to people who don't know me personally. She wasn't pregant when I married her. I met my wife a couple weeks after she had the baby. We dated for 2 years and have been married for 5.
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Thanks for clarifying. Whatever you'd said in the original post, it sounded as though you were married to her at the time the baby was born.

Had she been married before to the father(s) of the other 2 children? Any clues from those past situations that can help you figure out a plan of action?
 
moevillini said:
Thanks for clarifying. Whatever you'd said in the original post, it sounded as though you were married to her at the time the baby was born.

Had she been married before to the father(s) of the other 2 children? Any clues from those past situations that can help you figure out a plan of action?
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This was a first marriage for both of us. Our daughters biological dad is a loser. never paid a dime of child support, and has never shown his face. No idea if he is dead or alive. Our sons biological dad is a little better, but not much. The only clues I can get from her history and current relationship with those men, is that I'm ****ed.
 
Chris-L said:
This was a first marriage for both of us. Our daughters biological dad is a loser. never paid a dime of child support, and has never shown his face. No idea if he is dead or alive. Our sons biological dad is a little better, but not much. The only clues I can get from her history and current relationship with those men, is that I'm ****ed.
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Hindsight is 20/20, but man, you should have figured that a chick who was making babies with losers wasn't the A+ choice for wifey material.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Hindsight is 20/20, but man, you should have figured that a chick who was making babies with losers wasn't the A+ choice for wifey material.
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I know. I have always known. there were many red flags along the way. She is just such an amazing person (when she wants to be) that it was worth the risk.
 
Chris-L said:
I put the "step" in parenthesis for perspective. Legally, I have no rights to 2 of my children. I never thought she would go there, but she is holding that over my head now and saying I can't have them. I felt it was important to clarify that to people who don't know me personally. She wasn't pregant when I married her. I met my wife a couple weeks after she had the baby. We dated for 2 years and have been married for 5.
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I really doubt the bolded part is true. But I don't really know. That's the type of thing that led me to suggest a lawyer in my first post.

Edit: and even if you THINK it might be true, I would in no way, shape, or form ever admit that to the wife.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Hindsight is 20/20, but man, you should have figured that a chick who was making babies with losers wasn't the A+ choice for wifey material.
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In Chris's defense (know Chris since he was 10) his wife is a cool girl and she means more to Chris then many of you can imagine, heck she means a bunch to me for what she means to Chris!!

Sounds confusing but.. Yeah!!
 
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