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How long are you going to tollerate losing?

I really hope Utah does not do that and comes to play.

I'm not saying they'll intentionally throw games. But my take is, because of the lack of backups, guys are gonna start to be out for injuries, etc, right near the end. Hence the DNPs.
 
I'm not saying they'll intentionally throw games. But my take is, because of the lack of backups, guys are gonna start to be out for injuries, etc, right near the end. Hence the DNPs.

If it is a legit injury that is one thing. We will just have to see. I hope Utah has more integrity than to smudge things like GST.
 
If it is a legit injury that is one thing. We will just have to see. I hope Utah has more integrity than to smudge things like GST.

Well it could just be a minor injury but Lindsey could just rest them regardless. They are pretty cautious with injuries nowadays. That wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility IMO.
 
Well it could just be a minor injury but Lindsey could just rest them regardless. They are pretty cautious with injuries nowadays. That wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility IMO.

Yes it is possible. I just hope they do not go into GST territory if it does happen. The whole point of this is to play the young guys and let them learn and gel. If they sabotage that then this was for nothing.
 
Yes it is possible. I just hope they do not go into GST territory if it does happen. The whole point of this is to play the young guys and let them learn and gel. If they sabotage that then this was for nothing.

Nah, the young guys will get plenty of playing time, that's never in question. My take is there is a reason they haven't made any significant backup signings yet. To me that is a sign that something's up.

Only time will tell what that something is. My take is in the last 1-2 months there will be a lot of "injuries".
 
Nah, the young guys will get plenty of playing time, that's never in question. My take is there is a reason they haven't made any significant backup signings yet. To me that is a sign that something's up.

Only time will tell what that something is. My take is in the last 1-2 months there will be a lot of "injuries".

Well up to 4 of those back ups are guys that will be possibly part of the Jazz future. Gobert, Evans, Rush and McNeal. 2 more are on there to ensure the Jazz have room to reach in 2014. Beidrins and Jefferson. That brings the Jazz to 12 players (the before mentioned plus Williams (injured) and the C5). Not that much room left. You figure a PG will be added so there is room for 1-2 more and that is it.
 
Well up to 4 of those back ups are guys that will be possibly part of the Jazz future. Gobert, Evans, Rush and McNeal. 2 more are on there to ensure the Jazz have room to reach in 2014. Beidrins and Jefferson. That brings the Jazz to 12 players (the before mentioned plus Williams (injured) and the C5). Not that much room left. You figure a PG will be added so there is room for 1-2 more and that is it.

I wasn't referring to "quantity" I was referring to the "quality" of the backups.


The lower the quality of backups, the more likely we'll lose games down the stretch when Favors/Kanter/Hayward/Burke goes down...
 
I wasn't referring to "quantity" I was referring to the "quality" of the backups.

My point being is that the Jazz do not have much room for either. They choose to go with the youth, draft big and 2014 and big in free agency in 2014. As a result of trades and the draft the Jazz are at 12 players. Also this free agent class was not that good. I think the Jazz may go after 1 good bench guy to go along with Evans, Rush and Gobert (possibly Burks) and call it good.
 
My point being is that the Jazz do not have much room for either. They choose to go with the youth, draft big and 2014 and big in free agency in 2014. As a result of trades and the draft the Jazz are at 12 players. Also this free agent class was not that good. I think the Jazz may go after 1 good bench guy to go along with Evans, Rush and Gobert (possibly Burks) and call it good.

Well let's just see what happens last couple of months of next season. Hopefully I can score a Miso Ramen from PKM... LOL
 
My prediction is that Utah's tank team will miss the playoffs by two games and Corbin will win coach of the year.
 
here is my question. if our core + awful scrubs only win us 35 games this year and we get a top-5 pick, do you really think the rookie we draft next year is worth 15+ wins individually? this rebuild is just beginning and it's a 2-4 year process. we will suck for a while unless our core is acutally better than we think, which means we won't be ending up with a top-5 pick next year.
 
OK, again, you are changing the arguement. Utah is rebuilding and will suck. I think we are all glad that the youth get the reigns.

That is not what GSTankers did. They had a group of talented players that they did not play in an effort to throw individual games. The destination is the same but the roads used to get there are dramatically different.

I am arguing the road taken and you are arguing the destination.

I am not changing the argument. I am saying the both GS and Utah have put themselves into a position to lose this year. Plain and simple.
 
I'm not saying they'll intentionally throw games. But my take is, because of the lack of backups, guys are gonna start to be out for injuries, etc, right near the end. Hence the DNPs.

That is contrary to what your argument has been all along. Tanking is INTENTIONAL.

here is my question. if our core + awful scrubs only win us 35 games this year and we get a top-5 pick, do you really think the rookie we draft next year is worth 15+ wins individually? this rebuild is just beginning and it's a 2-4 year process. we will suck for a while unless our core is acutally better than we think, which means we won't be ending up with a top-5 pick next year.

That's just one piece, Scoots.
We'll not only have the draft, but also $31MM in cap space in a monster FA.
We'll evaluate our players and our needs and fill them through the draft.
Take our 5 guys, add a stud from the draft, add a stud in FA.. and fillers... and yes, a completely rebuilt team capable of making noise that following year.
 
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