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Favors got extended

Doublea said:
Do you think the chances of Hayward getting extended are higher or lower now?
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I think Higher. Unsure if Hayward will accept what we offer.

ONLY issue I think Hayward has with Utah is lack of winning any time soon. I think he is more comfortable playing as a #3/#4 on a contender.

Only way we may get him is to overpay.

'Tis a shame.
 
Re: Hayward

Most teams now has a PG who does most of the playmaking (which is one of Hayward's greatest assets). Therefore it's higher unlikely that a team will offer a contract worth more than $10m to a wing player of this type, unless he/she has the potential to score over 20pts per game on a given night. (Durant, Carmelo, George, etc)

On that basis I think the Jazz will let Hayward test the market as a restricted FA before low balling him to a $8-$9m per year deal. (unless Hayward agrees to sign an extension around amount)
 
dalamon said:
I'm afraid of what were gonna pay Hayward now. 12-13per is a realistic.
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At this point you let the market dictate what Hayward will make. The Jazz should just be ready to match any offers made to Hayward. That way everyone comes out looking good.
 
My hope prior to the season is that the Jazz could sign extensions with both for between 20 to 22 million per.
 
I think the Jazz overpaid and I am worry that they are going to overpay for Hayward. The Jazz will have more leverage if they end up drafting a Randle/Wiggins/Parker to re-sign Hayward.

I would have offered Favors $10 million with incentives. I would offer Hayward $8 million with incentives. I would front load both contracts so when it is time to re-sign Kanter there will be money to pay him and still keep other good players like Burks and Burke (if they pan out).

Maybe I am worrying about nothing but the Jazz need to be very careful not overpaying guys with "potential" and getting caught with another AK contract.
 
People comparing this to the AK deal... THIS IS NOTHING LIKE IT. 4/49 is a lot different than 6/86.

Also this is a great well timed deal for the Jazz. If Favors underperforms what we think he will do this year he'd still get a similar offer in the open market, but what if he goes for 15 pts / 12 rebs / 2.5 blks in like 33 minutes? We'd be paying a helluva lot more next Summer than what we just did.
 
I don't get the complaining on this board. This is fair market value for the guy. He isn't an offensive threat. Probably never will be. But his defense and rebounding alone make up for it. Sure it would be nice if he was a scoring threat too. But if that were to happen we would have to pay 20 mil a yr. I like the deal. Even more so if it's front loaded.
 
Zulu said:
Higher.... I bet he gets 5years!!
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I think that 4 is the most that you can sign a players contract for-- unless you give him the max (as per new CBA).


Hayward will only get 4 years. Kanter is the only probable candidate for the max tbh
 
dipship31 said:
People comparing this to the AK deal... THIS IS NOTHING LIKE IT. 4/49 is a lot different than 6/86.

Also this is a great well timed deal for the Jazz. If Favors underperforms what we think he will do this year he'd still get a similar offer in the open market, but what if he goes for 15 pts / 12 rebs / 2.5 blks in like 33 minutes? We'd be paying a helluva lot more next Summer than what we just did.
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This^^^^

AK's contract took away our flexibility.....

Favor's deal gives us lots of flexibility!!!

With this deal we can get Hayward, Favors, Kanter and Burks... Under contract for less than we had Deron, Ak, Boozer and Okur!!!
 
I'm a fan of this DFav contract. ~12 million for one of the most promising bigmen isn't bad for a small market like Utah. It's not a bargain (for now) of course, but this most certainly isn't overpaying him.
 
I honestly think it is to much. Jazz gambling on potential here. He has not proven he is worth more then 10mil at this point. But since it is Utah we are talking about they need to overpay to keep them from leaving I guess. I hope they don't run out of money when they will need to extend Hayward, Kanter and Burke. Burks as sad as it might be odd man out.
 
dipship31 said:
People comparing this to the AK deal... THIS IS NOTHING LIKE IT. 4/49 is a lot different than 6/86.
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to be honest AK showed way more then Favors when he got that contract. He could have gotten the same deal from numerous other NBA teams if left unsigned. Not sure about Favors yet.
 
AKMVP said:
to be honest AK showed way more then Favors when he got that contract. He could have gotten the same deal from numerous other NBA teams if left unsigned. Not sure about Favors yet.
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Favors wouldn't have gotten 12 million a year from other teams? Seriously?
 
PKM said:
Nope.. not me.
I'm exclusive.
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Then there's a dude running around with your name:)


Doublea said:
Sounded like Favors really didn't want to go to a different team and liked it here in Utah. Also I think almost every other team would have paid him the same amount to get him. I think we saved some money here.
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Favors has never seemed like a guy that looks for the parties or night life, maybe I'm wrong but his laid back personality is perfect for life in Utah.
cowhide said:
So what is he making now. $7.5 approximately. With this deal he is going to make $12 million, man life is good in the NBA. This is why I have no sympathy for NBA owners. I am glad Favors signed a new deal but I would have tried to get him for less. I know maybe they did but it seems like a big raise for not doing very much.

I hope the Jazz know what they are doing because you can draft all the talent in the world and screw it up by overpaying guys like they did with AK and Ostertag. It is only a great deal if Favors gets his act together on the offensive end. Unfortunately it puts Kanter in great position if he outplays Favors. Another concern is now Hayward is going to want Paul George money. So far Hayward has played better than Favors so his agent might just say the bidding starts at $49m.
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You need to look at the buissnes side of the NBA if you totally try to lowball him he's just going to play out the year and get even more in a bidding war in the offseason. I would guess in extension talks the player has all the leverage in the negotiations. In order to save money you need to pay more now. Hope to god we extend Hayward soon. What if Hayward puts up 18/5/7. I can see some stupid gm giving him a near max deal just on the numbers alone without really studying or scouting him.
 
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