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Where do ute fans see their first loss coming from? Think you have a good shot against wazzu and honesty would not be surprised if you took down ucla in Pasadena.
 
jazzman12 said:
Agree 100% with everything you say. For me, it's just silly the audacity of a BYU fan to hold up a "We want Bama" sign 4 weeks into the year. The 2004 Utah team was amazing, but due to their schedule, they did not deserve to bump out an undefeated USC or Oklahoma. Any Ute fan who thinks otherwise is a Moran.

Same thing with BYU this year. You've got a nice team and one of your better QB's in recent history, but there's nothing they can do this year to justify any sort of "We want Bama" talk.
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I agree. Sadly I believe that 90% of years byu and utah are middle if the road pac 12 quality. (Think washington, Arizona, oregon state)

Once in a while each program had a special year and gets up to a top level pac 12 team (Stanford, ucla, usc)

Also once in a while each program will have a down year and be a bottom level type team (Colorado)

Imo byu and utah for the most part are what we thought they are...... an average power 5 program.

This year's byu team MIGHT be a little better than average (maybe a 3rd or 4th place pac 12 team with a chance at top two) but I dont believe they are a top 10 team or anything even if they go undefeated.


Also, utah might be a little underrated this year. They have looked really good in every game so far..... I'm interested to see how thier season goes.
 
fishonjazz said:
I agree. Sadly I believe that 90% of years byu and utah are middle if the road pac 12 quality. (Think washington, Arizona, oregon state)

Once in a while each program had a special year and gets up to a top level pac 12 team (Stanford, ucla, usc)

Also once in a while each program will have a down year and be a bottom level type team (Colorado)

Imo byu and utah for the most part are what we thought they are...... an average power 5 program.

This year's byu team MIGHT be a little better than average (maybe a 3rd or 4th place pac 12 team with a chance at top two) but I dont believe they are a top 10 team or anything even if they go undefeated.


Also, utah might be a little underrated this year. They have looked really good in every game so far..... I'm interested to see how thier season goes.
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Good post. I agree with all points.
 
I'm so torn on that UCLA game. The last two years, UCLA has won by a TD each year. Two years ago, it was either Wilson's first or second start as a true freshman. Last year was the 6 INT game.

I think this will be the toughest game for UCLA against us. I don't know if that means Utah wins or loses.

As for BYU, who knows when they will lose. On the one hand, they are a paper tiger. They have defensive issues and Hill hasn't improved that much as a passer. BUT, their schedule is as tough as a wet paper bag.

BYU will lose to a team with speed at the LB position and a good QB. That kind of rules out all their opponents. Maybe that Florida team or maybe Cal. That's how weak their schedule is.

I wish there was some way for BYU and Utah to play in a bowl game. Utah would wipe the floor with BYU. It wouldn't be close. That being said, I'd take the Holiday Bowl over the Miami Bowl any day of the week.
 
There's no way BYU is top 3 or 4 in the PAC-12 this year. Your WR's aren't good enough and Hill isn't good enough to get the ball to them and your defense has issues. This might be the worst defense Bronco has had. BYU would give up 30 a night this year in the PAC-12 and there is no way they score 30 every week.
 
green said:
Utah would wipe the floor with BYU. It wouldn't be close.
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green said:
There's no way BYU is top 3 or 4 in the PAC-12 this year. Your WR's aren't good enough and Hill isn't good enough to get the ball to them and your defense has issues. This might be the worst defense Bronco has had. BYU would give up 30 a night this year in the PAC-12 and there is no way they score 30 every week.
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Byu's wide receivers are actually very good..... your right about hill not getting the ball to them enough though.

The defense is a lot better than they have looked the last two games imo.... especially when kafusi comes back. (Should be next back next game)
 
fishonjazz said:
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Byu's wide receivers are actually very good..... your right about hill not getting the ball to them enough though.

The defense is a lot better than they have looked the last two games imo.... especially when kafusi comes back. (Should be next back next game)
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Kaufusi is a big hole. But that's the problem. As Utah has found out, you have to be 2-3 deep everywhere. Kaufusi misses time and his backup is almost as good? You're screwed. If BYU was in the PAC-12 and Hill went down...yikes.

BYU picked a good year to have a down team talent wise. Their toughest game might be Cal.
 
green said:
Kaufusi is a big hole. But that's the problem. As Utah has found out, you have to be 2-3 deep everywhere. Kaufusi misses time and his backup is almost as good? You're screwed. If BYU was in the PAC-12 and Hill went down...yikes.

BYU picked a good year to have a down team talent wise. Their toughest game might be Cal.
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They don't have a down team talent wise. This team is loaded with talent. And very deep.

The backup qb is quite good as well..... a much better passer.
In the fall scrimmages I saw, he was utilizing those huge, talented receivers very nicely. Lots of deep balls. Dude had a very strong arm.

Kinda excited for if taysom gets hurt to see what the backup qb can do tbh.

Thank god byu doesnt have that ute backup qb
 
fishonjazz said:
They don't have a down team talent wise. This team is loaded with talent. And very deep.

The backup qb is quite good as well..... a much better passer.
In the fall scrimmages I saw, he was utilizing those huge, talented receivers very nicely. Lots of deep balls. Dude had a very strong arm.

Kinda excited for if taysom gets hurt to see what the backup qb can do tbh.

Thank god byu doesnt have that ute backup qb
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The bottom line is that when you have a QB as talented as Hill, you can compete with anyone in the country. Period. Not saying they can beat a team like Bama, but I don't think it would be a blowout (necessarily).

Florida competed with Bama for over half the game, and that was with a ****ty QB. Hell, Bama's run defense isn't what has been in years past, I wouldn't be surprised if Hill and BYU could control clock against them and win. I know MSU and Dak will do just that.

When you have a dominant team on the ground, you can beat anyone. Are there any teams in the Pac-12 with dominant front 7's?
 
Also, I want to pimp MSU LB Benardrick McKinney. The dude is going to be a top 10 pick as an underclassmen (hope he love MSU to stay for his senior year doe). 250 LB line back who runs a 4.5/4.6 40. Can stop any RB dead in their tracks. If any of y'all watch MSU in the future, keep an eye on #50.
 
Cy said:
Also, I want to pimp MSU LB Benardrick McKinney. The dude is going to be a top 10 pick as an underclassmen (hope he love MSU to stay for his senior year doe). 250 LB line back who runs a 4.5/4.6 40. Can stop any RB dead in their tracks. If any of y'all watch MSU in the future, keep an eye on #50.
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Will do.
Easy name to remember
 
fishonjazz said:
They don't have a down team talent wise. This team is loaded with talent. And very deep.

The backup qb is quite good as well..... a much better passer.
In the fall scrimmages I saw, he was utilizing those huge, talented receivers very nicely. Lots of deep balls. Dude had a very strong arm.

Kinda excited for if taysom gets hurt to see what the backup qb can do tbh.

Thank god byu doesnt have that ute backup qb
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I'm quite comfortable with Kendall Thompson. He's played well in each game, and right after the pick 6 against Michigan, he led Utah on am extremely long drive before half that restored some offensive momentum. And unlike BYU's backup, we're starting to see him take enough snaps that's he's not a complete unknown.

Also, Utah would mop the floor with BYU this year. Their overall team speed is currently the best it's ever been and as we've seen recently: even when Utah's slow, they still are quite a bit faster than BYU. Plus, Utah's D can play man press coverage on BYU, while committing 8 in the box for Taysom. Not only is that the blueprint necessary to beat BYU, it also happens to be Utah's bread and butter. Utah's special teams is also on a whole other level this year, and we've seen many recent games between these two come down to special teams.

As unlikely as it is, I am PRAYING Utah faces them in a bowl game. Believe it or not, most years I've felt like BYU has matched up well with Utah and I'd ready myself for a possible defeat. This year that wouldn't be the case. I think Utah be would able to at least slow down Taysom and cruise to a relatively easy win.
 
jazzman12 said:
I'm quite comfortable with Kendall Thompson. He's played well in each game, and right after the pick 6 against Michigan, he led Utah on am extremely long drive before half that restored some offensive momentum. And unlike BYU's backup, we're starting to see him take enough snaps that's he's not a complete unknown.

Also, Utah would mop the floor with BYU this year. Their overall team speed is currently the best it's ever been and as we've seen recently: even when Utah's slow, they still are quite a bit faster than BYU. Plus, Utah's D can play man press coverage on BYU, while committing 8 in the box for Taysom. Not only is that the blueprint necessary to beat BYU, it also happens to be Utah's bread and butter. Utah's special teams is also on a whole other level this year, and we 'be seen many recent games between these two come down to special teams.

As unlikely as it is, I am PRAYING Utah faces them in a bowl game. Believe it or not, most years I've felt like BYU has matched up well with Utah and I'd ready myself for a possible defeat. This year that wouldn't be the case. I think Utah be able to at least slow down Taysom and cruise to a relatively easy win.
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Funny how you and green talk about the utes being in a whole different class than byu.

It's like you think the utes are the #1 team in the country and byu is idaho state.

Makes ute fans sound pretty stupid really.

Oh well, keep up the good work

I do wonder why the national media doesn't see things the way you and green do.

Its all good though the utes have no one but themselves to blame for not playing byu this year.
 
fishonjazz said:
Funny how you and green talk about the utes being in a whole different class than byu.

It's like you think the utes are the #1 team in country and byu is idaho state.

Makes ute fans sound pretty stupid really.

Oh well, keep up the good work

I do wonder why the national media doesn't see things the way you and green do.

Its all good though the utes have no one but themselves to blame for not playing byu this year.
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Yeah, plus while saying all you have to do is commit a lot of people in the box to stop Hill sounds good, he isn't such a terrible passer that he can't take advantage of man-to-man coverage with limited safety help. All it takes is a scramble out of the pocket and all of the sudden WR are wide open in space.

Until someone stops Hill this year, saying Utah would undoubtedly do it is laughable.
 
jazzman12 said:
I'm quite comfortable with Kendall Thompson. He's played well in each game, and right after the pick 6 against Michigan, he led Utah on am extremely long drive before half that restored some offensive momentum.
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As far as my comment about Thompson,.... I was just trolling green a little since that is all he does to me.

I have no problem with Thompson or the utes.
They are good team and I'm excited to see what they do each week
 
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