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spycam1 said:
Winslow has only made 4 two-point jumpers all season (13.8% shooting).

Compare that to Johnson's 27 made two-point jumpers (52.9% shooting).

That's a drastic difference. There's obviously things Winslow is better at, but this shows the type of scoring limitations Winslow has.
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Winslow's been struggling lately, but yeah, he's not a good midrange shooter. I'm actually ok with that. He doesn't need to hit midrange shots, just gotta finish and the rim and hit 3's.
 
Hantlers said:
Winslow's been struggling lately, but yeah, he's not a good midrange shooter. I'm actually ok with that. He doesn't need to hit midrange shots, just gotta finish and the rim and hit 3's.
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Well with only 4 2 pointers made all year is he even finishing at the rim?
 
Hantlers said:
Winslow's been struggling lately, but yeah, he's not a good midrange shooter. I'm actually ok with that. He doesn't need to hit midrange shots, just gotta finish and the rim and hit 3's.
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Well with only 4 2 pointers made all year is he even finishing at the rim?
 
I don't know how accurate this is (spy???) and it's off of nbadarft.net so take it fwiw but here's how it opens in describing Johnson.

"Strengths: The first two things that jump out are his incredible football player like body and his competitiveness ... He's a standout with his on ball defense where he is able to use his huge chest to muscle any offensive threat ... But compared to Ron Artest, he looks like a much better defender off the ball, using his large wingspan to deflect passes and his big hands to snatch the ball away from opposing players ... Defensively, he's absolutely a beast, who could immediate play in the NBA creating problems for many NBA wings ... Perhaps another of his best characteristics, really rare in a 18 year old is how he plays to his strengths, never takes a bad shots, never tries to show off, instead takes what the game gives him."

Sign me up. This is what this team needs. I think it would make Gobert even more passionate and Favors some as well.
 
Hezonja very impressive too.

I would be very, very happy with any of those three wings. Something about Winslow reeks of pretty-boy prima donna. I'm probably way off here but he just has that look to me.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Hezonja very impressive too.

I would be very, very happy with any of those three wings. Something about Winslow reeks of pretty-boy prima donna. I'm probably way off here but he just has that look to me.
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I agree with the first half. Winslow has always been known as the guy who's willing to do the dirty stuff to win...defending the best player, rebounding, not taking a primary scoring role. He's at best, the 3rd or 4th option for Duke...a prima donna doesn't take that role.

Honestly, either Johnson or Winslow would leave me ecstatic. I prefer Winslow because I think he has a better chance at developing into a primary offensive player, but either one is a win.
 
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QuinSnydersHair said:
I don't know how accurate this is (spy???) and it's off of nbadarft.net so take it fwiw but here's how it opens in describing Johnson.

"Strengths: The first two things that jump out are his incredible football player like body and his competitiveness ... He's a standout with his on ball defense where he is able to use his huge chest to muscle any offensive threat ... But compared to Ron Artest, he looks like a much better defender off the ball, using his large wingspan to deflect passes and his big hands to snatch the ball away from opposing players ... Defensively, he's absolutely a beast, who could immediate play in the NBA creating problems for many NBA wings ... Perhaps another of his best characteristics, really rare in a 18 year old is how he plays to his strengths, never takes a bad shots, never tries to show off, instead takes what the game gives him."

Sign me up. This is what this team needs. I think it would make Gobert even more passionate and Favors some as well.
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I dunno I thought we established last season: NBAdraft.net is whoring for pageviews a lot during the season. Overhyping everyone who has a hot streak.

I wouldn't even read their stuff to begin with(Did in the past, total ******** mostly)

QuinSnydersHair said:
Hezonja very impressive too.

I would be very, very happy with any of those three wings. Something about Winslow reeks of pretty-boy prima donna. I'm probably way off here but he just has that look to me.
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Have you watched the Johnson documentary? That's prima donna stuff. With him I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't care about a win unless his name is associated with it.
Winslow has a reputation to do be a team first player on the court.

We'll see how they develop in the pros, but willingness to pass is evidently a skill that's mandatory on championship teams.
 
BTP said:
I dunno I thought we established last season: NBAdraft.net is whoring for pageviews a lot during the season. Overhyping everyone who has a hot streak.

I wouldn't even read their stuff to begin with(Did in the past, total ******** mostly)



Have you watched the Johnson documentary? That's prima donna stuff. With him I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't care about a win unless his name is associated with it.
Winslow has a reputation to do be a team first player on the court.

We'll see how they develop in the pros, but willingness to pass is evidently a skill that's mandatory on championship teams.
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What site would you recommend now?
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I don't know how accurate this is (spy???) and it's off of nbadarft.net so take it fwiw but here's how it opens in describing Johnson.

"Strengths: The first two things that jump out are his incredible football player like body and his competitiveness ... He's a standout with his on ball defense where he is able to use his huge chest to muscle any offensive threat ... But compared to Ron Artest, he looks like a much better defender off the ball, using his large wingspan to deflect passes and his big hands to snatch the ball away from opposing players ... Defensively, he's absolutely a beast, who could immediate play in the NBA creating problems for many NBA wings ... Perhaps another of his best characteristics, really rare in a 18 year old is how he plays to his strengths, never takes a bad shots, never tries to show off, instead takes what the game gives him."

Sign me up. This is what this team needs. I think it would make Gobert even more passionate and Favors some as well.
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Didn't Johnson win four state championships in high school?
 
BTP said:
Have you watched the Johnson documentary? That's prima donna stuff. With him I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't care about a win unless his name is associated with it.
Winslow has a reputation to do be a team first player on the court.

We'll see how they develop in the pros, but willingness to pass is evidently a skill that's mandatory on championship teams.
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The ball apparently also stops when he's on the floor.. dunno if he's ideal for our group. I think Winslow's a better bet ... he's also from DUKE. This from Chad Ford.

The board is pretty fluid between Nos. 5 and 12. Johnson could end up just as easily going fifth or sixth as he could 11th. Johnson was replaced by Rondae Hollis-Jefferson in the starting lineup on Sunday against Arizona State. However, by the start of the second half, Johnson was back with the first team. It appears that there have been some concerns about Johnson's defensive effort as well as a tendency for the ball to stop moving when he's on the floor. Those are minor issues overall and everyone expects Johnson to continue to play the alpha-dog role for Arizona. His shooting has been especially impressive this season; he's making 52 percent of his 2-point jumpers and 45 percent from 3. It's his percentage at the rim (just 48 percent) that has raised some eyebrows.
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QuinSnydersHair said:
What site would you recommend now?
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Personally I prefer draftexpress and deanondraft (although he doesn't update until later). Sometimes Dean can be too stat based, so take it with a grain of salt, but he provides nice insight imo. I'm not a fan of nbadraft at all, and don't bother pay attention to any mock draft at this point, they're worthless.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Guys - serious question - is Looney a 3 or a 4 in the NBA?



Does he not have Greek Freak's type of potential?
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He's not that freakishly long or athletic like Giannis but can do a little bit of everything.
I need to see more game evidence of him before I can say anything other than PF.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
What site would you recommend now?
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draftexpress.
They have the highest accuracy in mock drafts.
They combine written scouting reports with video breakdowns as soon as they have footage that's not AAU or HS.
The video breakdowns usually include multiple cases of evidence showcasing certain attributes. The Video also gives you the opportunity to decide for yourself if that point is valid.
 
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