2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[MDAV28]

First round pick caphold is 2.5... I figure we want to keep Korver and didn't factor it into my 12ish statement.

Well I dont know then. I just know my numbers are right. Are you using 108 million as the cap?

Yeah I posted my numbers (109 cap). First round cap hold of -2.5 would bring my 21 million in space down to probably 19.

 

[MDAV28]

At a cap space cost of functionally $4M I keep Korver. If we waived and stretched him it creates like $6M in additional space.

I'd keep Korver too. Just thinking about max space generated.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah I posted my numbers (109 cap). First round cap hold of -2.5 would bring my 21 million in space down to probably 19.

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=11090706435c48b485cf69e023605504

 

[MDAV28]

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=11090706435c48b485cf69e023605504

I declined Tony's option and used a 109 cap so that's the discrepancy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I declined Tony's option and used a 109 cap so that's the discrepancy.

You cant decline his option. The Jazz already accepted it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

OP on his deal 27M a year for two years is as good of a value as Harris on a 4 year max imo. 4 years averaging 33-34M per. OP is a much better defender... Tobias can get his own shot... OP hasn’t shown that... but what if it’s in there somewhere.


Only question is what else do we have to give... a pick? Done! Exum? Done! A pick Exum and Grayson... slow down turbo. Might be extra salary considerations like taking Howard’s contract... we waive him before he steps on the flight to SLC.

 

[MDAV28]

You cant decline his option. The Jazz already accepted it.

Ouch.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Can OPj be a full-time 4, though? The roster gets very weird if he doesn’t spend at least most of his time there (tons of wings, no 4s).

 

[NUMBERICA]

Ouch.

Yep.

 

[fishonjazz]

Can OPj be a full-time 4, though? The roster gets very weird if he doesn’t spend at least most of his time there (tons of wings, no 4s).

With Rudy, anything is possible.

I kid, but I think the answer is yes.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Can OPj be a full-time 4, though? The roster gets very weird if he doesn’t spend at least most of his time there (tons of wings, no 4s).

Jazz can play Ingles/Crowder at the 4 and Porter/Korver at the 3. Porter may also be able to create with the ball more than he's shown with the Wizards, since Wall and Beal have been ball dominant.

If I'm the Jazz, I want to rely less on Ingles handling on so many possessions, since it seems to wear him out.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Can OPj be a full-time 4, though? The roster gets very weird if he doesn’t spend at least most of his time there (tons of wings, no 4s).

I don’t think he needs to... could play alongside Jae.

Depending on what salary is included in the deal the starters could be:

Rubio
DM
Ingles
OP
Rudy


Or

DM
Ingles
OP
Favs
Rudy

I kind of like the second alignment more but I’m not a big Rubio believer.

 

[LoPo]

lmfao at the idea of Favors being a MLE player, that's way more of an underpay than his current contract is an overpay. He's on a very fair contract. I think if he played full-time center, he'd be looking at 15 million per year type offers.

$17 million for Favors was not fair at all. Randle got less than $9. Bjelica got less than $7. Smart got $12 per year. Ariza got $15. McDermott got $7 per year. Joe Harris $8 per year. Rudy Gay $10. Belinelli $6 per. Van Vleet $9 per. Ed Davis $4.4. Caldwell Pope $12. Aaron Gordon $21 per (only $4 more than Favors). JJ Redick $13. Zach LeVine $20 per (only $3 more). Nurkic $12 per. Jerami Grant $9 per year.

The only ones overpaid were Jabari and Jordan. And we know now they were very overpaid.

If Favors gets a 3 year deal making $9+, that's fair as hell.

 

[Jingled]

I hope Jazz wouldn't be throwing in any assets in these talks. Like Faves and Sef for OPJr. No picks. I guess Bradley if they wanted him. That would be the only way I could wrap my head around that deal.

You'd definitely have to include a pick but it would be worth it. What are we going to honestly get with a 1st round pick in the 20's? Likely a player who won't even be in the rotation. If we can get a good player I wouldn't hesitate at all to trade away first round picks.

Favors without Gobert on the floor(i.e. Favors at center) is averaging per 36: 19.6pts/13.3rbs/1.7ast/2.1blk/1.3stl on 64% shooting. Do you know how many teams in the league would kill to have a center like this?

I don't think as many teams as you think. There didn't seem to be many suitors for Favors during free agency last offseason.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Shams said Tauren Prince is available too... would send our pick for him... not sure what kind of offers they will get or how set they are on moving him.

Could add him and still have tons of space to maneuver.

 

[infection]

Shams said Tauren Prince is available too... would send our pick for him... not sure what kind of offers they will get or how set they are on moving him.

Could add him and still have tons of space to maneuver.

Then in three years we could trade our pick for whoever that pick becomes. NBA Ponzi scheme.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wouldn't favors likely be part of the opjr trade?

I don’t think he needs to... could play alongside Jae.

Depending on what salary is included in the deal the starters could be:

Rubio
DM
Ingles
OP
Rudy


Or

DM
Ingles
OP
Favs
Rudy

I kind of like the second alignment more but I’m not a big Rubio believer.

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[LoPo]

You are wrong. All it takes to match Conley's salary are Ex, Rubio, and Thabo.

All we need is Rubio and Exum and it works:

http://tradenba.com/trades/Sy0Wkr8XV

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Jazz pursuing Otto Porter according to Shams.

Are they saying jazz have interest because the jazz liked him during Hayward’s free agency, or is this actually a new rumor?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Shams said Tauren Prince is available too... would send our pick for him... not sure what kind of offers they will get or how set they are on moving him.

Could add him and still have tons of space to maneuver.

I like this as a lower-key move. If done at the deadline after nothing else pulls through, it keeps the powder pretty ****ing dry and makes the team better at the same time.