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You can improve immensely as a NCAA player from Fresh->Soph and it still might not improve your draft stock. The two games are so different that becoming a better college player could be at odds with becoming a better NBA player.
 
KqWIN said:
You can improve immensely as a NCAA player from Fresh->Soph and it still might not improve your draft stock. The two games are so different that becoming a better college player could be at odds with becoming a better NBA player.
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Ehh, not for Flip. He improves his shooting and shows strides as a playmaker and it's a huge bump for him.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Flip going back to college :’(
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It’s probably smart for him. Show he’s a good shooter and collect some of that Duke NIL money before he goes to China as a pro (I’m kidding… relax but seriously think it’s smart for him).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
No Ceilings did a 3 person mock draft. Utah got Cason at 9, Ausar at 13, and TJD at 28
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I like some of their stuff and will listen but feel like a couple of them are weirdos trying so hard to be different. One has Amen at 16 on his big board… wtf is that?
 
Jingled said:
Jalen Hood-Schifino is growing on me the more I watch him. If we take a forward with our pick, I wouldn't mind taking him with the Minny pick.
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This is the time of the year where we make lots of small concessions and try to talk ourselves into non-elite prospects.
 
KqWIN said:
You can improve immensely as a NCAA player from Fresh->Soph and it still might not improve your draft stock. The two games are so different that becoming a better college player could be at odds with becoming a better NBA player.
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Exactly.

"Great college player" is the worst backhanded compliment there is. Frank Kaminsky, Adam Morrison and Luka Garza are smiling in heaven right now. This guy is their spiritual successor.

Back in the day, when people still respected the college game and the best non-NBA players in the world were in the NCAA, going back to school was treated like a legit way to take your game to the next level. "Oh my God... this guy is good now, he's gonna be an ABSOLUTE MONSTER next year!"

These days it's like "Meh, the dude knew he was dropping into the 2nd round in this draft. He had no choice." (Which is literally what happened to Flip)

He needs to improve his shooting, sure, but he's also a ground bound big with lead feet. Not sure what he's gonna do about that. He'll put up big numbers next season... and he still won't be a lotto pick.
 
KqWIN said:
You can improve immensely as a NCAA player from Fresh->Soph and it still might not improve your draft stock. The two games are so different that becoming a better college player could be at odds with becoming a better NBA player.
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For Flip though I think its a good decision. Likely does pretty well with NIL money and Duke is an institution I'd hang around if I wasn't a guy that is for sure going to be a 5-10 NBA guy (I know guarantees and floors are a thing you don't love) I think if you flamed out of the NBA you will have a job at Duke if you stuck around a bit. I legit think Flip is a fringe first rounder and there is real danger in being a second round pick and just being cut loose. If he can guarantee he gets selected top 20 next year spending a year fine tuning things will be worth it.

I could see Flip being a 4 year guy (for real) and ending up doing well with NIL, being a Duke legend, and being selected 1st round still. Hang around the league for 5+ years and then hanging around the Duke program while making a couple hundred grand a year as a local legend. To be clear this is a scenario where he just doesn't quite cut it in the NBA.

There is risk for sure... in his case I think its fine.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
JHS went top 10 in the No Ceilings mock. Some people really love him.
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They were in on him early... like really early. So I think it goes back to pre-college stuff. Not sure if that makes it better or worse.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Exactly.

"Great college player" is the worst backhanded compliment there is. Frank Kaminsky, Adam Morrison and Luka Garza are smiling in heaven right now. This guy is their spiritual successor.

Back in the day, when people still respected the college game and the best non-NBA players in the world were in the NCAA, going back to school was treated like a legit way to take your game to the next level. "Oh my God... this guy is good now, he's gonna be an ABSOLUTE MONSTER next year!"

These days it's like "Meh, the dude knew he was dropping into the 2nd round in this draft. He had no choice." (Which is literally what happened to Flip)

He needs to improve his shooting, sure, but he's also a ground bound big with lead feet. Not sure what he's gonna do about that. He'll put up big numbers next season... and he still won't be a lotto pick.
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Frank is like a 10 year pro now... Luka Garza about to get a solid payday (I'd give him 3-4M a year with no hesitation). That said... Flip should stay unless he is a surefire first round guy. The exposure at Duke is still great long term.
 
Starting to feel at ease with the where the Timberwolves pick is. We have a long way to go until the draft, but I think Bufkin is still on the board there and I think he might be all-around better than both Wallace and George. He’s got dynamism that is like a blend of both players, but his efficiency around the rim (that is largely a product of his burst/quickness) is at a level above both of theirs. I would really like someone that can put pressure on the paint/rim from the perimeter AND someone that might have the ability to comfortably pull up from 3.

If the Jazz can secure Whitmore or Hendricks with the first pick (either through luck or a conservative trade up), and get Bufkin with the Wolves pick, I would be quite pleased.
 
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