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In response to @Elizah Huge rhetorical question….

Guys I’m happy with at 9 - Hendricks, Black, Wallace, Bufkin, Ausar, Walker

Guys I’d be okay with but not thrilled - Dick, Bilal, Miller (I like him but we can get him later I think).

Guys I’d be furious about - JHS, Lively (would only happen if DL hacked the Jazz draft).

So like just don’t piss me off please?
I think NSJ is the most realistic option at 9 that would piss me off the most.
 
I think I'm cool with almost all potential picks at 9. Wallace/Black/Dick/Walker/Whitmore/Ausar/JHS/Bufkin.

The only one that would be kind of disappointing to me would be Hendricks, but I wouldn't call it a bad pick.
 
Yeah, for me 9 isn't a cutoff at all. There's the top 5 or 6 depending on how you think about Ausar, then 7-15, is a lot of the eyes of the beholder.

Nah… it’s pretty cut and dry I think.

Hendricks/Black/Walker are all on a different tier than the guys below them. Bufkin/Wallace would be the two who are closest to cracking that tier though.

In no way could I say any of those guys should go 11-15.
 
I like Dick too but I don’t see him falling past 11 and I think there are better players than him at 9.
 
Yeah, for me 9 isn't a cutoff at all. There's the top 5 or 6 depending on how you think about Ausar, then 7-15, is a lot of the eyes of the beholder.
That's fair to see it that way. I will say the consensus top 9 (Vic/Scoot/B-Miller/Amen/Ausar/Whitmore/Walker/Black/Hendricks) are a step above in terms of size/athleticism compared to the next grouping which is what separates them for the general/safe evaluator who will usually value those things because they are the most obvious things.

Bilal/GG could be in that group, but probably have too many question marks for most people's liking.
 
I know you like him a lot but to be an elite scorer you need to have a mid-range game.
What does "have a mid range game" mean? How many shots per game we talking? What shooting percentage from there? I think there are elite players who dont take a high percentage of their shots from mid range. I bet curry takes WAY more threes and paint shots than mid range and I consider him elite. I feel like Lauri was pretty elite last year and didn't seem like he took many mid range shots. Donovan was a pretty elite player for us imo and didn't shoot a ton of mid range from what I remember. I dont see a lot of mid range shots coming from the hands of giannis or luka either but I could be wrong. I dont have the stats on all this stuff.
 
In response to @Elizah Huge rhetorical question….

Guys I’m happy with at 9 - Hendricks, Black, Wallace, Bufkin, Ausar, Walker

Guys I’d be okay with but not thrilled - Dick, Bilal, Miller (I like him but we can get him later I think).

Guys I’d be furious about - JHS, Lively (would only happen if DL hacked the Jazz draft).

So like just don’t piss me off please?
NSJ was an obvious oversight... he is below the furious level... like I will just be sad.
 
Most of the elite mid-range scorers take anywhere from 3-5 shots from there per game. That includes guys like Kawhi, Paul, Beal, George, Fox, Mitchell, Luka, Middleton, Brunson, Klay, Bridges, Davis, Brown, Trae, Curry, Butler, Embiid, Giannis, etc.
 
Udoka is Nigerian also and the same things were said about him. Right? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Udoka got screwed by injuries. I think he's a 3rd big in the NBA. Nnaji is much lighter than Udoka though and I think they are different players despite playing similar roles.
 
Nah… it’s pretty cut and dry I think.

Hendricks/Black/Walker are all on a different tier than the guys below them. Bufkin/Wallace would be the two who are closest to cracking that tier though.

In no way could I say any of those guys should go 11-15.

I get where you are coming from, but just to be clear, I'm talking about for me personally, not consensus.

I look at it more for where I project players in terms of all star potential, starter level, rotation player, etc. I think the top 5-6 have all star level potential, and then 7-15ish have high level starter potential. I could definitely be wrong, but that's where I see it.
 
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