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2nd Best Player Ever

Who is the second best basketball player in history?

  • Magic Johnson

    Votes: 8 22.2%

  • Larry Bird

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Wilt Chamberlain

    Votes: 8 22.2%

  • Bill Russell

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Kobe Bryant

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Kareem Abdul Jabbar

    Votes: 6 16.7%

  • Karl Malone

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Hakeem Olajuwon

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Oscar Robinson

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Shaquille O'neal

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Total voters
    36
Chad Feldheimer said:
I never said Walton sucked. He won an MVP. Kareem won 6

Kareem wasn't about winning? He has more rings than Bird and Walton combined. Oh and when he was at UCLA they went 88-2 and won 3 NCAA titles.

If Kareem was all about stats as opposed to Walton why didn't Walton average more assists?

No I didn't watch. So I won't comment on Wilt vs. Kareem.
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Yes, and five of them were with Magic, arguably the second best player of all-time and best team player of all-time (toss-up between him and Bird)

Regarding Walton and Kareem, I believe Walton's teams only lost one game in college, to David Thompson and NC State in the NCAA finals, his last game in college, playing under tremendous pressure because of the 70-game win streak, and Thompson at the peak of his skills, probably better than Michael Jordan as a college player.
 
Kareem 38000 reasons why but i think he was the best ever 6 rings and mvps. Plus hes in a Bruce Lee movie a episode of Simpsons and Baseketball. One of the coolest fights ever.

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I really hate the guy, but Kobe Bryant has the rings, the stats, and the competitive drive. Plus, he's a defensive glove, a bitch, a rapists, and has hit more big shots than Robert Horry. If he's not second to Jordan, I don't know who is.
 
Monte666 said:
Kareem 38000 reasons why but i think he was the best ever 6 rings and mvps. Plus hes in a Bruce Lee movie a episode of Simpsons and Baseketball. One of the coolest fights ever.

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That ******* doesn't even have a statue of him.
 
Kobe's defense has been over-rated for years. It is EXTREMELY OVER-RATED when you look at what he does now.
 
Archie Moses said:
I really hate the guy, but Kobe Bryant has the rings, the stats, and the competitive drive. Plus, he's a defensive glove, a bitch, a rapists, and has hit more big shots than Robert Horry. If he's not second to Jordan, I don't know who is.
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I guess me and you are the only ones who think Kobe is. I sense a bias.

There are some many things to go off of. Like stats, rings, mvp's, etc... I just think Kobe was more skilled than any of the guys listed. The guy in his prime was a straight assassin. Kobe's only weakness was his attitude. I get the feeling he would be sitting on more rings if he would have matured earlier. And he still can add more rings with this next run.
 
I know I'm in the minority here, but I honestly would put Jordan at #2, behind Magic, and I really despise the Lakers.
 
Hack said:
I guess me and you are the only ones who think Kobe is. I sense a bias.

There are some many things to go off of. Like stats, rings, mvp's, etc... I just think Kobe was more skilled than any of the guys listed. The guy in his prime was a straight assassin. Kobe's only weakness was his attitude. I get the feeling he would be sitting on more rings if he would have matured earlier. And he still can add more rings with this next run.
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Agreed. Jerry West called him the most skilled player he's ever seen, or something to that effect.
 
Well it's probably Magic for me. It's hard to choose between Magic,Wilt and Kareem. Bird is in back of my mind too.

I made up my mind and it's Magic.
 
To me in this thread and poll, Wilt is overrated, Hakeem, Bill Russell and Bird is underrated and the others seem pretty much right.
 
addictionary said:
Sure. On Kareem documentaries and flashback gamez. Funny, it always seemed to me as if Wilt took Bill's throne, Kareem Wilt's, and MJ everyone else's.
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Do you think there will be a better player than MJ ever? I believe there will be, maybe in 10-15 years at the latest.
 
Enes CanTear You Apart said:
Do you think there will be a better player than MJ ever? I believe there will be, maybe in 10-15 years at the latest.
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Of course there will be. There are already better players and there have been others before. But not in the NBA. Michael Jordan is a product of advertisement revolution in the league. So many will not notice the better players because of the lack of spot lights.
 
Kobe is the best player I have seen in person. When Kobe scored 40+ in 8 or 9 games in a row I was at the one against the Jazz. He had a bum knee looked like he could barely walk and scored 45 on AK with ease. It was crazy.
 
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