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2nd Best Player Ever

Who is the second best basketball player in history?

  • Magic Johnson

    Votes: 8 22.2%

  • Larry Bird

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Wilt Chamberlain

    Votes: 8 22.2%

  • Bill Russell

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Kobe Bryant

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Kareem Abdul Jabbar

    Votes: 6 16.7%

  • Karl Malone

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Hakeem Olajuwon

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Oscar Robinson

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Shaquille O'neal

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Total voters
    36
WhiskyPriest said:
So Far I count three people: Me, you, and the other guy. We should invite some Turks to be in the draft. I think it would be funny to see Hedo and Memo go in the first round.
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OK, I'm in as well, but I rather want some Ilyasova please. He's kind of my fellow man from central Asia.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I'm in for this. What is it? A foreign players draft? Can someone please state the rules to me? And can we start this asap?
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Not foreign, just all players ever. I was thinking of doing a snake draft, with no specifics about each round (last year, I think they did it by decade or something). Then, we'll form a bracket, and have Jazzfanz vote on who they think would win. If anyone has suggestions about the rules, feel free to say so. I'd like to make sure this all sounds good with you guys before actually starting the thread.
 
spycam1 said:
Going by stats alone is very misguided. If that was the case, then I would have to put Oscar as the best player ever (averaged a triple double as a rookie). Wilt was a physical freak, but his greatness heavily came from the time he was playing in. He was the only 7 footer at the time, playing in a league without a 3 pointer, and more importantly, NO GOAL-TENDING. For those of you who haven't actually watched Wilt play, he would sit under the basket, wait for one of his teammates to shoot the ball, then while it was on its downward arc, grab it in mid-air, and dunk it. I remember seeing one of his teammates shoot a bank shot, but after it hit the backboard, Wilt just grabbed it and put it in, himself. Hell, if I was playing with a bunch of 5th graders on an 8 foot hoop, without goal-tending, I'd average 50 ppg too.

Having said that, Wilt was one of the most physically gifted players of all time. If he had been born into today's age, I'd say he would be something along the lines of a Dwight Howard; a physically gifted beast, but raw offensively.
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Not to mention no one was allowed to defend him in the post. That was the softest era of basketball, bar none. It was weaker than Euros sticking there hands up and paralyze everything else from the nipples down. I'd take Shawn Bradley over Wilt.
 
Archie Moses said:
I really hate the guy, but Kobe Bryant has the rings, the stats, and the competitive drive. Plus, he's a defensive glove, a bitch, a rapists, and has hit more big shots than Robert Horry. If he's not second to Jordan, I don't know who is.
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Archie, why do you take him over Shaq? Shaq's 2 MVP seasons are arguably the most dominating single seasons ever. He only has one less ring, won 2 for Kobe, & never had that third cog in Miami. Kobe has had complete 5 man teams for rings 4 & 5, & didn't have a respectable Eastern Conference competitor for the 4th one.
 
I don't wanna do a Jazz one. I did it last summer and doing again so soon is not appealing to me. Let's just do a foreign draft.
 
Scorpjazz said:
Wilt's winning, as he should be. Cry more bitches...
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Why Wilt?

Hell, why not Wilt first, if you are just going to ignore who he was playing against?


Shouldn't class of competition matter somewhat?

If you say Wilt then you are saying basketball was just as good back then, than it is now.

My eyes tell me players weren't nearly as good as they are now. I don't think Wilt would have averaged his numbers in present day basketball
 
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