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All else being equal, who would you rather have running the Jazz: Bledsoe or Burke

Who would you rather have as the Jazz PG of the future?

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I'm no Bledsoe homer, btw, I've said multiple times that the love for him on this board gets carried away.
 
spycam1 said:
Elite quickness? (change of direction/pace)
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That is what makes him effective, but those aren't really tools of traditional athleticism. Chris Paul is about as lowly a physical specimen as you'll find in the NBA (or at least for ones that become franchise players/superstars/perennial all-stars/dream teamers), but he has ability that makes up for it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
CP3 doesn't have elite speed.
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The thing about Paul, and other great PG's, is that their speed becomes elite when they have the ball because of their ability to dribble and probe defenses. Nash isn't a track star by any means, but who could stay in front of him when he was 33 years old?
 
NUMBERICA said:
That is what makes him effective, but those aren't really tools of traditional athleticism. Chris Paul is about as lowly a physical specimen as you'll find in the NBA, but he has ability that makes up for it.
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I never said they were tools of traditional athleticism. And yes, they help Paul a lot. I'm wondering if anyone thinks Burke has that.
 
spycam1 said:
I'm no Bledsoe homer, btw, I've said multiple times that the love for him on this board gets carried away.
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I understand your point, but look at what we have now...that is why Bledsoe seems so damn attractive..I know you want him anyway, just stating why the love for him gets carried away.

When you have had a plain baked potato for ever, loaded mashed taters sound really good...
 
spycam1 said:
I never said they were tools of traditional athleticism. And yes, they help Paul a lot. I'm wondering if anyone thinks Burke has that.
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I don't know enough to say. My entire point is that when the first thing people talk about with a PG is how they can jump high or run fast, my interest disappears. That's probably a fault of mine. But the fact of the matter has been and is that PG is the most skill-driven position in the game and that's what I'm looking for FIRST in a player and the peripheral stuff is just that.

Bledsoe is very talented and would be good return on the asset of a very good player that is a soon-to-be UFA that very feasibly will walk. I say that in a vacuum saying nothing about Al (because that pretty dramatically swings the discussion for me).
 
SOmetimes Im sure you live in that vacuum you talk about....Al is so much a better player, taking salaries out of the equation, it isnt even close. The fact you and your minions think otherwise baffles me almost as much as the Utes conquest of the pac12...oh wait, yeah, nvm about that part.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
This time last year Lillard was mocked at around 25th overall in most mocks. Don't be a slave to the mocks. Watch the dude ball, he is legit. You could have said the exact same thing last year in a Lillard vs. Bledsoe debate.
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Comparing Burke to Lillard as prospects is ridiculous. Lillard was rated so low because he was a bit of an unknown upperclassman that played for little known WSU. Where as Burke plays for Michigan, and everyone knows who he is. Had Lillard played for say Indiana or UCLA I think he'd have been rated higher. Not a great argument.
vslice02 said:
That's the biggest question I have on Burke - how does his game translate against NBA length & athleticism. As far as finishing at the rim, alot of diminutive NBA PG's have scored in the paint w/a mid-range game/floater and I've seen glimpses of that from Burke...maybe Burke comes off a pick&roll, gets into the lane and either shoots a 10-foot floater or looks to dish instead of go strong to the rim?
I don't like the "all things are equal" because they aren't. One is a sophmore in college and the other is a 3-year NBA pro. One will be paid on a 4-year rookie-scale contract while the other would potentially be due a big-money contract in 1 year (and is eligible to sign an extension one this summer along w/Hayward & Favors). One could likely be had for a mid-1st-round pick while the other could cost Paul Millsap long-term (which could increase the chances of Utah re-signing Jefferson *shudders*) and a pick as well.
Also, Bledsoe seems like one of those guys 'you just let go play,' rather than run alot of methodical halfcourt sets. Similar to how OKC gives Westbrook the green-light to attack when he sees fit...does Ty have it in them to give a young PG like Bledsoe the keys to the engine?
It's really a tough call because Bledsoe's the type of guy who could blow-up and make you look like an idiot for not getting him, but also the type of guy if you list all the pro's and con's you wonder if you'll actually be a better team w/him in 3 years.
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Ty wanted to run and play a uptempo offense, and was doing just that, then Mo got hurt and you can't do that with Tinsley and Watson.
 
When someone asks the question in the OP, and your team in run by Mo/Tinsley/Watson, the only correct answer is BOTH.

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Scorpjazz said:
SOmetimes Im sure you live in that vacuum you talk about....Al is so much a better player, taking salaries out of the equation, it isnt even close. The fact you and your minions think otherwise baffles me almost as much as the Utes conquest of the pac12...oh wait, yeah, nvm about that part.
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Except that the guy was nabbed for scraps that almost everyone wishes we had back? And that he was the spearhead to the complete collapse of a franchise? How does your own *** taste?

This isn't about Sap, this is about Jefferson being not good at basketball and not deserving of his salary, his possessions, or his minutes.
 
Right now I think Burke will be something along the lines of Jeremy Lin. Someone who doesn't have fantastic physical abilities, but has a pretty well rounded skill set, just not the kind of skill set that guys like Paul and Irving have.
 
I voted Bledsoe due to the fact that he's the lower risk of the two. Also anyone who knows me knows I'm fairly old school and prefer a traditional pg and am stubborn in my ways a bit, but am slowly coming around to the new age pg, the Westbrooks, and Roses of the pg spot.
 
It's very close obviously. The nice thing about getting Bledsoe this year is we get a year and a half trial run before having to pay him big bucks. If he doesn't work out, can trade him before his RFA comes up and still get some return, and go after Kasey Hill or Andrew Harrison .
 
Catchall said:
An argument might be made that Alec Burks has looked as competent at PG as Bledsoe, but I haven't watched too closely.
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