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Ben's take on ROY

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Having a redshirt year due to medical surgery isn't that helpful, just ask Dante Exum.

Hell most sports let you play in your first year and still be a rookie the next season if you didn't reach a threshold of appearances. Tony Bradley would still be ROTY eligible next year if he played the same comparative time in the mlb or NHL
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Both of those leagues have full blown, organized and developed minor league systems. NBA and NFL don’t.

I think Richard Jefferson put it very well.

Ben (if he stayed healthy last year) probably wins ROY last year - when he should have been eligible. And Dario Saric would have been his top competition, since I don’t think Embiid should’ve been eligible even if he had stayed healthy.

I think that it’s entirely reasonable to assume that a year with professional players, coaches and trainers better prepares you to be more productive in the NBA than coming out of college at any age.
 
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Rubashov said:
Joe "Dunk Life" Ingles does it without being a douche...
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C'mon Rub. You and I both know that Ingles is a total ****** when on the court. He is the definition of trash talking. That is how Aussies are though. Rough and dirty in the battle - meek and mild off the court. Simmons is more brash - like my perception of many elite US athletes, but like them - keeps it ice cool on the court.
 
Rubashov said:
According to our man downunder he had a bit of a rep for being up himself growing up so it wouldn't surprise me that he's a bit of a rich kid douchebag. But as Aussies he's our douchebag so we'll put up with it.

I'm really torn about this, i want Donovan to get his acknowledgement but it will also be huge for basketball in our country if Ben wins it.
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Ben A Major douchebag. Big For your country? Win A MVP, Now thats big for a country.
 
Et tu Brute said:
C'mon Rub. You and I both know that Ingles is a total ****** when on the court. He is the definition of trash talking. That is how Aussies are though. Rough and dirty in the battle - meek and mild off the court. Simmons is more brash - like my perception of many elite US athletes, but like them - keeps it ice cool on the court.
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Aussies always on the top list of dirtiest players in the league. Bogut,Delly is way dirty. That's how most here in the states view Aussies bball.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
Aussies always on the top list of dirtiest players in the league. Bogut,Delly is way dirty. That's how most here in the states view Aussies bball.
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Yeah we know. Over the years we have viewed many US players as 'soft' and 'entitled' and 'whingers'.
Delly is seen by most Aussies as 'tough' and 'scrappy'. Bogut 'shrewd' etc
Sometimes it is the eye of the beholder.
 
Et tu Brute said:
Yeah disagree.
I wonder what happens when the Cavs put Lebron at the five. Can Embiid really cover him?
Philly will one day (soon?) see lineups where Simmons guarding the 5 might be their best option.

Simmons has the highest ceiling of any player in the league imo. He is a top 20 player without a jump shot. And there is strong reason to believe he is developing one. He has taken a number of midrange shots since the AS break with mixed success.

He literally can guard 1-5.

Simmons> Embiid.

In fact, offensively, Simmons without Embiid is perhaps better for the sixers as it forces him to take more ownership and they run teams out of the building. Embiid's role could easily be replaced by Fultz who is able to get his own shot. Defense is where they miss him most.

We will see.

But remember, I am totally biased. I'm hoping Ben leads us Aussies to a medal in the next Olympics :)
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utahjazzz said:
Simmons > Embiid > Mitchell
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Yep, and thats why its hard to take any of your opinions of any aussie players serious. Its a little ridiculous to claim Simmons has a higher ceiling than Embiid. It is straight up bat **** crazy to argue that Simmons is better than Embiid already. But both of you think Simmons is going to be better than Lebron so I guess ill just take your posts on this subject with humor. Probably the same as both of you take real Jazz fans opinions on Jazz players :)
 
Lol @ Ice Cubes response. He basically said he doent know what Utah is doing and hasnt watched him.

That was a pretty embarrassing for Ice Cube. Ice "Someone has to score when your team sucks." Stephan A. "They are the 4th seed in the West (the much much better conference)" Ice "Oh, I didnt know that."
 
Ron Mexico said:
Lol @ Ice Cubes response. He basically said he doent know what Utah is doing and hasnt watched him.

That was a pretty embarrassing for Ice Cube. Ice "Someone has to score when your team sucks." Stephan A. "They are the 4th seed in the West (the much much better conference)" Ice "Oh, I didnt know that."
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Its unbelievable they have a guy like him on to act as though hes some sports expert. Its a horrible bubble some people live in. Stephan A., someone who I usually watch for his outlandish nature, came right to the defense in this video. Ice Cube looked like a complete fool, as he is.
 
Ellis269 said:
A lot of other fans think that because he is a talker and looks like he should be playing rec ball, not in the NBA. Definitely envious. If he were on their team they’d LOVE him like we do.
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And if Simmons was on our team we'd probably love him too.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Lol @ Ice Cubes response. He basically said he doent know what Utah is doing and hasnt watched him.

That was a pretty embarrassing for Ice Cube. Ice "Someone has to score when your team sucks." Stephan A. "They are the 4th seed in the West (the much much better conference)" Ice "Oh, I didnt know that."
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I mean, did anyone expect Ice Cube to watch the Utah Jazz? He is no Chuck D, a true NBA fan.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And if Simmons was on our team we'd probably love him too.
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Difference is that fans of simmons (aussies) say he is a douche. I dont think ingles fans ever say he is a douche.
 
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