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Bodyslam a reporter in montan and still win an election! that's how much the media is HATED

JustTheTip said:
lol you guys didn't even know they were at his house.
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The reports I've read said it was at a campaign office, which I guess could be his home. There was a BBQ going on and there were other reporters present from various media outlets. I'm not sure the location changes anything.


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fishonjazz said:
I think using the word "house" makes your scenario apples to oranges.

Using the word "workplace" works better imo.
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sorry fishonjazz, i love you, i hate to contradict you!
enum it was in his house granted during a public bbq event but he went in a private room, to have a private conversation/interview with someonene else!

i think no matter the circumstances he still could have his private rooms and qtrs.

or are you saying we can barge in into public servants bedroom at any time?

or are you saying when you hold a bbq in your house and i go into your bedroom and be rude, their is nothing you can do because we got invited!
even after you tell me to get out of the room!


sorry just giving you the coutnerpoint
 
JustTheTip said:
For that matter, I know some of you have been in fights, whether with siblings or strangers.

If a guy is hitting on you, how likely are you to give a play by play of what's happening? We all know this "journalist" was instigating things. That doesn't justify Gianforte's actions at all, but it sure would be nice if members of the media held themselves to the same standards they hold everybody else too.
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not to mention this is used to cover up a bigger story, then some democrats caught with child pornography in new york!
 
Where is the source that the alleged assault took place at his house? I can’t find it. All the press reports I've read, every one of them, including local reports from Montana papers and the eyewitness account by the Fox News reporter who was invited to interview Gianforte, said the incident took place at Gianforte’s campaign headquarters in Bozeman and that the BBQ was also at campaign headquarters in an adjoining room.

Link to eyewitness account:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html
 
Jonah said:
Where is the source that the alleged assault took place at his house? I can’t find it. All the press reports I've read, every one of them, including local reports from Montana papers and the eyewitness account by the Fox News reporter who was invited to interview Gianforte, said the incident took place at Gianforte’s campaign headquarters in Bozeman and that the BBQ was also at campaign headquarters in an adjoining room.

Link to eyewitness account:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html
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i think i heard it on tucker carlson, could be wrong!

btu even at campaighn headqtrs, dont u think their should be rooms offlimit to reporters in a campaign headqtrs?

i mena even business have stuff offlimits to public and reporters
 
Zombie said:
The reports I've read said it was at a campaign office, which I guess could be his home. There was a BBQ going on and there were other reporters present from various media outlets. I'm not sure the location changes anything.


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He was at his house, in a room holding an individual interview with another reporting team.

Btw, I'm shocked that something that doesn't fit your point of view is irrelevant. ;)
 
JustTheTip said:
He was at his house, in a room holding an individual interview with another reporting team.

Btw, I'm shocked that something that doesn't fit your point of view is irrelevant. ;)
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Ok bud. So far we have your word against eyewitness accounts of what transpired. At this point I'm convinced you're just trolling.

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Jonah said:
Where is the source that the alleged assault took place at his house? I can’t find it. All the press reports I've read, every one of them, including local reports from Montana papers and the eyewitness account by the Fox News reporter who was invited to interview Gianforte, said the incident took place at Gianforte’s campaign headquarters in Bozeman and that the BBQ was also at campaign headquarters in an adjoining room.

Link to eyewitness account:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html
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Which was at his house/estate however you wanna put it. Bottom line, his personal property.

Btw, the Fox reporter did end up saying that he never put his hands around Jacob's neck.
 
Zombie said:
Ok bud. So far we have your word against eyewitness accounts of what transpired. At this point I'm convinced you're just trolling.

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The eyewitness account says the same thing I did...

On Wednesday, I joined field producer Faith Mangan and photographer Keith Railey in Bozeman for our scheduled interview with Gianforte....During that conversation, another man — who we now know is Ben Jacobs of The Guardian — walked into the room with a voice recorder, put it up to Gianforte's face and began asking if he had a response to the newly released Congressional Budget Office report on the American Health Care Act. Gianforte told him he would get to him later. Jacobs persisted with his question. Gianforte told him to talk to his press guy, Shane Scanlon.
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Zombie said:
I have yet to see a single report that says the events took place at Gianforte's home. Nor do those reports make it sound as though the reporter was out of line in what he did.

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Barging into a private interview and repeatedly asking the same question even after they tell you that they'll get to you after isn't out of line? Try that with your boss and see how it goes.
 
JustTheTip said:
Which was at his house/estate however you wanna put it. Bottom line, his personal property.

Btw, the Fox reporter did end up saying that he never put his hands around Jacob's neck.
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I did read where he has a nice house on the Gallatin River (where some of the fly fishing scenes from “A River Runs Through It” were filmed), but assumed his campaign headquarters would be separate. It is commendable the Fox reporter retracted the choking portion of her statement since she was the original and only source for that colorful tidbit which admittedly made the whole incident sound much worse.
 
JustTheTip said:
Barging into a private interview and repeatedly asking the same question even after they tell you that they'll get to you after isn't out of line? Try that with your boss and see how it goes.
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Gianforte is not his boss so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

He went into the room, through an open door mind you, while the other reporters were setting up and asked the guy a question he said he would answer when the CBO report came out.

As any reporter worth his salt would do he asked the question again after Gianforte tried to squirm out of it. Then he was attacked.

For the life of me I can not understand why people think finding out a politicians position on important policy matters on the eve on an election is grounds for assault. Who needs a stinking fourth estate anyways right?



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I would also like to point out that I'd have been willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt if he had done what a reasonable person would have and apologized after the altercation and made a statement to the effect that he lost his temper and acted out inappropriately, throwing himself to the mercy of the Montana voters.

Instead his campaign blamed the reporter and made up a story about him grabbing Gianforte. Essentially pulling a No U!

Any apology he made afterwards was rendered hollow by the initial statement he made.

But do go on white knighting tech millionaire douche bags. God knows they need it.

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JustTheTip said:
Horrible? I think we disagree. He did something very stupid, not horrible. Tell you what, I'll go to your house, get in your face and refuse to leave. We'll see what you do. Fair?
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Uh, in my 34 years on this planet, I have never used physical violence against another human being. And I've had people do much worse things than "get in my face."

But I suppose I'm just a *****.
 
An overabundance of poorly informed posts in this thread make it a real chore to read through. Here, let me educate some of you:

#1 This district is 90 percent white.
#2 It voted Trump overwhelmingly, by 21 pts.
#3 A democrat has not held this seat since 1997.
#4 The DNC did not help finance Quist's campaign. He largely competed with the hard work and money of volunteers working at the small grassroot level.

So for partisan repubs, yay, I guess you should feel good that you managed to hold onto this completely irrelevant seat.

But for anyone into political statistics, it's pretty obvious that 2018 is going to be a massacre for repubs. In even the reddest districts, repubs are barely squeaking by. Most districts aren't going to be 90 percent white and so supportive of Trump. For districts that are competitive, that sub 40 percent approval rating by Trump will prove to be a hinderance rather than an asset. Districts light red or purple will be painted blue. Most models show democrats retaking the House well over 50 percent of the time. Once Democrats take the House, Trump's presidency will be over. They'll either impeach him or block any legislation. Trump should be working as hard as he can to accomplish his agenda right now. He's not and soon he'll run out of political capital anyway.
 
The Thriller said:
But for anyone into political statistics, it's pretty obvious that 2018 is going to be a massacre for repubs. In even the reddest districts, repubs are barely squeaking by. Most districts aren't going to be 90 percent white and so supportive of Trump. For districts that are competitive, that sub 40 percent approval rating by Trump will prove to be a hinderance rather than an asset. Districts light red or purple will be painted blue. Most models show democrats retaking the House well over 50 percent of the time. Once Democrats take the House, Trump's presidency will be over. They'll either impeach him or block any legislation. Trump should be working as hard as he can to accomplish his agenda right now. He's not and soon he'll run out of political capital anyway.
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ooh wait like these things called polls that predicted trump hand no chance in hell of winning?!

hahahah you will be in for a surprise come 2018!


hahahahaha this is just cute! but he you gotta have hope. the problem with hope is it poisons your MIND!
 
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