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Zerol
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Maybe he will just tell Fegan that he is too lazy to move and just stay.
TheSilencer1313
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Obviously it isn't about the money with this kid.
I think he sees the same kind of thing that D-Will is seeing, and he sees a possible championship run.
Something that Houston couldn't possibly offer right now.
TheSilencer1313
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Did someone just say Fes and DEEP in the same line?
Sounds like a seven man team to me. Okur and AK are injury prone, Miles is sub-par, Hayward is unproven, who the hell is Evans?, and we're still drooling over Fes' "upside potential". Deep! Very, very, very deep.
Millsap and maybe Watson are the only depth Utah has at this point. Take out AK and Okur's injuriy prowess and it's a different story. They didn't just grow a year younger, each.
Ok for one thing Okur is NOT injury prone.
In fact, he's played more games consecutively than most of the team in the last four years. Ak, yeah he's injury prone, but so are a lot of good players.
Miles Sub-par? I've seen videos of him draining 25 three pointers in a row in practice.
Does it matter that Hayward and Evans are unproven? Wes Mattews was unproven, and look what size of a contract he landed in Portland.
People that know the game of basketball, can tell what Fesenko's potential can be in the NBA.
For one thing Millsap is a proven starter, and your saying that Kirilenko, Bell, and Price don't bring depth as well?
As far as Price goes, you might want to look at the Lakers/Jazz series in the 09/10 season, where Price completely schooled L.A's whole bench and almost brought the Jazz all the way back from a blowout.
Doc Cherno
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I'm with you on Price. I don't know why he's become this board's whipping boy. He's not Deron Williams, but then why would anyone expect that. Does he have some bad games? Of course. So does Deron, but Deron also doesn't come off the bench for 8 minutes at random intervals. I've always thought Price was a decent backup. I think Watson, from what I've seen of him over the years, is better and will deserve time ahead of Price, but I like Price for what he is.
Leaving 3 mil on the table is more idiotic than anything Fess has done in his life combined, and that is saying a lot. The guy maybe made a million total in his entire career - how can he just leave 3 mil on the table? Even if he is unrestricted next year - he needs to show he can play before commanding anywhere near this amount. And there is always possibility of injury. 3 mil for him is too much money to risk. You just don't turn down this kind of money when your career earnings are 3 times less and your best accomplishment is averaging 3 ppg on 43% FG starting in play-offs, when real starter went down. And let's say he does well in the next year. So, he plays out one more year, gets his extra 3 mil and then signs a big contract. Risk vs reward just does not make sense here. Don't take me wrong, I am glad it worked out well for the Jazz as we get to keep him for just 1 mil, and next year with AK's deal expiring we can offer him more if he earns it, so I am glad how it worked out. I am just fascinated with Fes' stupidity, which he has just taken to the whole new level.
NAOS
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Did someone just say Fes and DEEP in the same line?
Sounds like a seven man team to me. Okur and AK are injury prone, Miles is sub-par, Hayward is unproven, who the hell is Evans?, and we're still drooling over Fes' "upside potential". Deep! Very, very, very deep.
Millsap and maybe Watson are the only depth Utah has at this point. Take out AK and Okur's injuriy prowess and it's a different story. They didn't just grow a year younger, each.
Should I say that this is the worst post of the offseason, or should I say that it is the worst post I've seen from you? hmmmmm
meh... pretty much the same thing.
Slappfisk
Member
Yeah because the Jazz have never shown any willingness to hire shooting consultants or work with players on their shots.
Imbecile.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
We don't know he turned down an offer of $3M. Kenwood was just giving an example. I'm sure Fes probably has injury insurance that would pay him at least equal to the QO he's receiving this season for a few years.
What if Houston offered a 3 year deal at $5.5M? We don't know what it was. In any case, I think Fegan's team has probably told Fes the WORST case scenario is to be offered an Elson-type deal. Heck, even Jarron Collins still has a spot in the NBA. That right there tells you how many teams are desperate for big men.
As a RFA, Fes wasn't going to get many good offers. KOC has set a good precedent: 1) Utah is willing to match a fair (or slightly above fair) contract even if it means going over the tax limit and 2) make an exorbitant offer to try and hurt the Jazz and Utah will walk away from it like they did with Matthews.
At a minimum, Fes will get a $1.0M contract next season. He's young and with his size, there are several teams that would give him a shot, especially as an UFA. Very high probability he gets a nice contract next season with very little risk if he mitigates it with insurance.
Chad Feldheimer
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I'm thinking Fes told them he wanted an offer before training camp started or he was going back to Utah. Hou wanted to see if they could get Dampier to commit, and if not they had Fes as a backup. Training camp eve came, no resolution from Dampier. Fes says I am going back to Utah before all my options are gone.
InGameStrategy
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Yeah, I would imagine that Fegan was driving the decisionmaking. I bet Houston offered a multi-year deal at no more than $2 million per, because they offered Dampier 2 years for $2 million. Fegan probably thinks that he can get 2x or 3x that much next year if Fes does anything this year, which I think that he will, even if Sloan stupidly doesn't get him on the floor even in times when he would be especially useful matchupwise.
Hopefully he won't hold it against the Jazz; Utah probably was willing to sign him for multiple years (OK, two or perhaps three) at the QO, maybe with standard raises, but didn't want to spend more this year because it was a dollar-for-dollar tax and because it makes it that much harder to get under the LT if they land another Kirilenko-shaving trade.
loos like they need to be fired imo.
Dude, you have absolutely NO idea of which you speak. First word that comes to mind is Pathetic! Perhaps your moniker is really who you are.
I personally go crazy every time I hear of anyone turning down a higher paying job anywhere for any reason. I mean it's more money, right? What other factors can be more important??? And don't get me started on people who give some of their money to others! I mean what the hell! Do they realize you can buy things with money?!? It's baffling.
NotDeadYet
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The leaner-meaner-fitter FES has arrived!! Would you believe down to 280, and no more jackpotting around.....
https://www.deseretnews.com/article...rylo-Fesenko-is-leaner-meaner-and-fitter.html
https://www.deseretnews.com/article...rylo-Fesenko-is-leaner-meaner-and-fitter.html
TheSilencer1313
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"Oh yeah, I forgot about Hornecek working with the Jazz players the last few years"
Duh buddy.
TheSilencer1313
Well-Known Member
You know, there are actually players out there that love the game of basketball, and like to compete.
It's not always about the money Mr. Boozer.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
This post is baffling to me.