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Burks at #12

Wow, just read through the comments on the D-News and SLTrib on the Burks pick. I had to LOL at all the hate there because we didn't trade up to get Jimmer. The Jazz got a better player at 2 picks lower in the draft and they are saying that they well never watch the Jazz again. Amazing.
Surprised it took this long for somebody to post this, I wasn't going to as I am a Ute fan and didn't want to be labeled a hater. But any and everybody had to know whoever the Jazz took at 12 that wasn't Jimmer the onslaught would ensue and probably why KOC was so to the point and stern with his "this is the one and only time we'll talk about him" last night in his post draft press conference.

And I know I noticed moments after from the Jazz's web draft central page from the twitter section people putting hateful comments towards KOC and/or the picks.
 
Surprised it took this long for somebody to post this, I wasn't going to as I am a Ute fan and didn't want to be labeled a hater. But any and everybody had to know whoever the Jazz took at 12 that wasn't Jimmer the onslaught would ensue and probably why KOC was so to the point and stern with his "this is the one and only time we'll talk about him" last night in his post draft press conference.

And I know I noticed moments after from the Jazz's web draft central page from the twitter section people putting hateful comments towards KOC and/or the picks.


Good Lord which article? You click on the Jazz and there's nine damn articles about Jimmer... It is beyond ridiculous!
 
I'm a BYU fan and I like Jimmer. But you know what? I don't think he was the best player for the Jazz, not even had he been there at #12. Jimmer will NOT be the starting PG for a championship team. Well maybe if the Heat picked up Dwight to join the big 3 and Fredette were their PG. Jimmer is a good fit for an up-tempo team like Sacramento, Phoenix or New York. The Jazz are young, but they're building a team based on size and toughness. I just don't see Jimmer being successful running the P&R with Favors and Kanter. I don't see him playing solid defense for all 24 seconds. He's going to get killed on switches.

I dismissed Burks as a prospect due to already having Hayward (as a 2) and no SF's signed. But it can work. Jazz can sign a FA, pick up CJ's option, move Hayward back to SF for a year, have Millsap play some at the 3, or a combination of several of those until they get a legit SF.
 
Maggs was an insane athlete too so I'm not sure that's fair but as far as his skills and such, perhaps that's a more fair comparison. And also, I don't think he could even be Wade. Like you said, Wade led his team to the Final Four while Burks led his to the NIT. But from a skills standpoint, he's quite intriguing and similar. If nothing else, he's an asset and right now, we have a ton of assets for next year's draft if we want to move up. Our pick (assuming we are mediocre), the GS pick (I doubt it will be top 7), and guys like Burks, Jefferson/Millsap, and Harris who may be valuable to some team in a package if we really want to move up and get someone like Barnes or Rivers is quite a bit. And i figured I wouldn't even mention Kanter, Favors, or Hayward though there's them too.

Good point about Maggs athleticism. Burks is a decent athelete too, but he is no Maggs. Overall, I just don't know if Burks will make it. With his advertised abilities you would think he would make more difference in College basketball. I can't say I am too excitied about this pick, but I am hoping for the best. SGs who are poor shooters are not a lock to make it. Even if they have good ability to drive. If people are not closely guarding him, he will not suuceed in NBA. This is not a college ball we are talking about. He will be playing against much better defenders, much better athletes. It will be harder to get to the line, and without at least a very solid shot, it will be tough.
 
I'm a BYU fan and I like Jimmer. But you know what? I don't think he was the best player for the Jazz, not even had he been there at #12. Jimmer will NOT be the starting PG for a championship team. Well maybe if the Heat picked up Dwight to join the big 3 and Fredette were their PG. Jimmer is a good fit for an up-tempo team like Sacramento, Phoenix or New York. The Jazz are young, but they're building a team based on size and toughness. I just don't see Jimmer being successful running the P&R with Favors and Kanter. I don't see him playing solid defense for all 24 seconds. He's going to get killed on switches.

I dismissed Burks as a prospect due to already having Hayward (as a 2) and no SF's signed. But it can work. Jazz can sign a FA, pick up CJ's option, move Hayward back to SF for a year, have Millsap play some at the 3, or a combination of several of those until they get a legit SF.

Burks is one of the most versatile players in the draft. His best position in the NBA could be PG when its all said and done. He was more or less the PG at Colorado, the ball was in his hands most of the time.
 
Surprised it took this long for somebody to post this, I wasn't going to as I am a Ute fan and didn't want to be labeled a hater. But any and everybody had to know whoever the Jazz took at 12 that wasn't Jimmer the onslaught would ensue and probably why KOC was so to the point and stern with his "this is the one and only time we'll talk about him" last night in his post draft press conference.

And I know I noticed moments after from the Jazz's web draft central page from the twitter section people putting hateful comments towards KOC and/or the picks.

Yeah I am a BYU fan and I like Jimmer. But the people on there have completely lost there minds. "Jazz should have just taken Jimmer with the 3rd pick." "Jimmer is going to score 30 points per game against the Jazz every time they play the Kings" And my favorite (and the most common) "Well the Kings just got a new fan, the Jazz and KOC are sooooo stupid I'll never watch a Jazz game again!"

Holy bandwagon Batman. All these people who have "been a Jazz fan for 30 years" saying that they are no longer a fan because we didn't draft Jimmer? Crazy
 
Wow you must know a lot of BYU fans. I could make a general statement about Ute fans, but it would be just as dumb as your statement. Grow up.

Here, let me.... They are classless! The whole school, the organization, the fans all classless!!! They drink beer.... The hospital and cancer research is classless!!!
 
Watching the DX pre draft video gives me a lot of hope for this kid coming off screens. Really good form on his mid range shot. I think the biggest problem with the 3 is that he is still working on his strength and doesn't feel like he can get it there shooting the way he does from midrange. That is a pretty easy fix. I see him being a pretty good shooter from outside after a few years. He has the tools to be a great player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Uy22sVg-g&feature=related
 
I know kanter was 2 on the Jazz board. I assume that was behind Irving? But what I really wonder is where Burks was on their board and if that was ahead of Jimmer. I would have paid money to see Burks drafted by Jazz with Jimmer still on the board.
 
Burks is one of the most versatile players in the draft. His best position in the NBA could be PG when its all said and done. He was more or less the PG at Colorado, the ball was in his hands most of the time.
That would be crazy...having Burks at the 1 and Hayward at SG. We'd have the biggest guard tandem in the league. Add Favors and Kanter and all Utah would need is a 6'10" SF to complete the lineup.
 
the more vids i watch, the more he grows on me. he really does have good enough handles to play at least 10-15 at pg
 
Wow you must know a lot of BYU fans. I could make a general statement about Ute fans, but it would be just as dumb as your statement. Grow up.

Really b/c I didn't see any Ute fans that were Jazz fans that stopped being Jazz fans when they didn't get Bogut
 
I know kanter was 2 on the Jazz board. I assume that was behind Irving? But what I really wonder is where Burks was on their board and if that was ahead of Jimmer. I would have paid money to see Burks drafted by Jazz with Jimmer still on the board.

We will never know. My gut tells me Jimmer was ahead of him though.
 
Yep, we may see more of him at PG than we imagined... The more skills they have, the more flexability the coach has in assembling "the best 5" on the floor together. Love his attitude; this is from today's Trib: "Burks is a guy with a healthy amount of confidence in his game, and a healthy chip on his shoulder, the product of spending most of his basketball life being overlooked. As the second lottery pick of the Utah Jazz in Thursday night’s NBA Draft, Burks promises to bring that same hunger to EnergySolutions Arena.

And if he does, expect him to break into Utah’s rotation, sooner rather than later.

“I like that Coach [Tyrone] Corbin says it will be a wide-open competition for minutes,” Burks said. “That’s the way I like it. It’s what I’ve been used to my entire career. I have to earn the right to eat.”
 
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