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yea most players start lifting early in high school. i'd assume with five or six years of strenght training most would be able to do atleast one rep but agree its not a real important test.
 
I think the combine would be funner if they had the combine numbers on some lighted board and they had some type of elimination like survivor or some other cheesy reality show. The losers would have to go to the Clippers:)
 
sojodave said:
I think the combine would be funner if they had the combine numbers on some lighted board and they had some type of elimination like survivor or some other cheesy reality show. The losers would have to go to the Clippers:)
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I just realized that is reality:)
 
Poor Kyle Singler probably would have been a lottery pick last year. Only 30" max vertical leap can not help his cause.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Hands are more important for big men because it helps them catch and control the ball. For guards it doesn't really matter that much. It is supposedly a detriment to Rondo's shooting.
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It's always been quoted as saying that John Stockton's huge hands helped him quite a bit. It's different for everybody obviously, I'm just picking an example close to home for us.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do they ever test how well a player can yell or moan? If so I'll bet Boozer killed it on that one.
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I heard when Boozer yelled "and 1" right as he jumped, that he jumped 2 inches higher.
 
for all the people thinking williams cant be a 3 because of his lateral agility, size, etc.

consider this comparison to our own gordon hayward, who we have all admitted is quick enough to guard the 3, and even the 2.


no step vert
dw-29
gh -30.5

max vert
dw - 34.5
gh - 34.5

lane agility
dw - 11.03
gh - 11.73

full court sprint
dw - 3.23
gh - 3.22



he managed a faster lane agility score, and comparable sprint, and jumping abilities than the 35 pound smaller hayward, and with much more length, i think he could definitely be an adequate defender at the 3.

i think a major question of his ability to play the 3 is of his ability to create for himself and others in iso situations, and being able to create off the dribble.


Derrick Williams is in the 96th percentile in terms of points per possessions in isolation situations, scoring about 1.130 per possession.

Williams is in the 92nd percentile in terms of PPP in post-up situations, scoring 1.065 points per possession on 50% shooting


i am inclined to say he could be a successful 3 in this league, with the ability to post up many of the 3's which would be matching up against him, and having the range to keep them honest.

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derrick-Williams-5811/#ixzz1NQtWnYAY
https://www.draftexpress.com
 
jope said:
for all the people thinking williams cant be a 3 because of his lateral agility, size, etc.

consider this comparison to our own gordon hayward, who we have all admitted is quick enough to guard the 3, and even the 2.


no step vert
dw-29
gh -30.5

max vert
dw - 34.5
gh - 34.5

lane agility
dw - 11.03
gh - 11.73

full court sprint
dw - 3.23
gh - 3.22



he managed a faster lane agility score, and comparable sprint, and jumping abilities than the 35 pound smaller hayward, and with much more length, i think he could definitely be an adequate defender at the 3.

i think a major question of his ability to play the 3 is of his ability to create for himself and others in iso situations, and being able to create off the dribble.


Derrick Williams is in the 96th percentile in terms of points per possessions in isolation situations, scoring about 1.130 per possession.

Williams is in the 92nd percentile in terms of PPP in post-up situations, scoring 1.065 points per possession on 50% shooting


i am inclined to say he could be a successful 3 in this league, with the ability to post up many of the 3's which would be matching up against him, and having the range to keep them honest.

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Derrick-Williams-5811/#ixzz1NQtWnYAY
https://www.draftexpress.com
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If he can trim down just a tad I think that would go a long way. But I do think he can excel at the 3. Honestly I see a lot of Melo in him the way he gets the ball on the wing, jabsteps, then blows by his defender. Not sure he's a perfect fit at 3, but I don't see big problems in store for him going forward.

This next month is going to get interesting. It seems like the more people see and hear about someone, the more their going to sour on them because they tend to start to notice what someone can't do, as opposed to remembering what they can do. I've already started doing it with Knight.
 
Beasley / Williams

No Step Vertical--------30 / 29
Max Vertical-------------35 / 34.5
3/4 Sprint---------------3.24 / 3.23
Lane agility--------------11.06 / 11.03

Still carbon copies of each other, physically at least.
 
margodydek said:
If he can trim down just a tad I think that would go a long way. But I do think he can excel at the 3. Honestly I see a lot of Melo in him the way he gets the ball on the wing, jabsteps, then blows by his defender. Not sure he's a perfect fit at 3, but I don't see big problems in store for him going forward.

This next month is going to get interesting. It seems like the more people see and hear about someone, the more their going to sour on them because they tend to start to notice what someone can't do, as opposed to remembering what they can do. I've already started doing it with Knight.
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I agree. Williams needs to trim down to about 230. And if we do get him, I hope he won't be a ball stopper like Melo.
 
Hell, if Derrick Williams is doing that at 10% body fat, just think what he'd be at 7%. Add an inch of vertical and lose a second in agility. Hopefully Kanter gets drafted at #2.
 
kanter's total numbers vs blake griffin vs carlos boozer (vs al horford)

6' 9.75'' - height without shoes - 6' 8.5'' - 6' 7.75''
6' 11.25'' - height with shoes - 6' 10'' - 6' 9.5''
259.2 - weight - 248 - 258
7' 1.5'' - wingspan - 6' 11.25'' - 7' 2.25''
9' 1.5'' - standing reach - 8' 9'' - 9' 0.5''
5.9 - body fat - 8.2 - ? - (9.1 al horford)
26 - standing vertical - 32 - 26.5
11' 3.5'' - no step jump - 11' 5'' - 11' 3''
32.5 - maximum vertical (in) - 35.5 - 28.5 - (35.5 al horford)
11' 10'' - maximum jump - 11' 8.5'' - 11' 5''
14 - bench press - 22 - 13
11.3 - lane agility - 10.95 - 10.77 - (12.15 al horford)
5.66 - modified lane agility - ? - ?
3.26 - 3/4 court sprint - 3.28 - 3.31 - (3.37 al horford)

kanter definitely has the body and athleticizm to even play the power forward position. he has a very solid condition (21 minutes in the treadmill, record for a big man, while the other 4-5 players were all guards) and runs the floor like a deer. could also play for an uptempo team like the suns or the warriors and so on.

combine shooting for kanter:
college 3’s: 56%
high school 3’s: 40%
midrange off dribble: 78%
timed midrange: 42%

most notable: kanter (32.5 in) even has a higher max vertical than khawi leonard (32 in). khawi could also only bench press 3 times. seems like an overrated athlete. if he isn't athletic enough and can't shoot the ball, i doubt that he will become a solid player. might be overrated.

despite size (frame, wingspan, standing reach), demarcus cousins looked terrible last year in the combine, very unathletic, can't run fast, also can't jump and a high body fat percentage. showing that he has a bad work ethic and also character issues.
 
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jimmer sucks because he's wite and mormen and goes to dat school down south. he sucks.

but lets also forget dos other stats, lik shoting. he sucks.

can we draft andru bogut?
 
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