Could Gobert eventually replace Favors in the Lineup?
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The Blue Elephant
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Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors seem a little bit like tweeners.
Rudy Gobert is a true Center.
Derrick WIlliams is a tweener and he busted...
However Al Horford and Lebron can both be argued to be tweeners and they are both excel.
Some tweeners are so good they can play both positions, some tweeners are not good enough to play either. Gobert, Favors, Kanter whatever the future holds it sure as hell sounds better then Milsap and Al Jefferson.
Will it be unplayable? Will they become as good offensively and better defensively as okur/boozer was? Will they challenge Duncan/Robinson as one of the best frontcourts of all time?
If I had to guess right now it will probably be slightly worse offensively then Boozer/Okur and much better defensively.
Rudy Gobert is a true Center.
Derrick WIlliams is a tweener and he busted...
However Al Horford and Lebron can both be argued to be tweeners and they are both excel.
Some tweeners are so good they can play both positions, some tweeners are not good enough to play either. Gobert, Favors, Kanter whatever the future holds it sure as hell sounds better then Milsap and Al Jefferson.
Will it be unplayable? Will they become as good offensively and better defensively as okur/boozer was? Will they challenge Duncan/Robinson as one of the best frontcourts of all time?
If I had to guess right now it will probably be slightly worse offensively then Boozer/Okur and much better defensively.
Appreciate your contribution bro, but we're talking about the future. We're trying to project his potential.
I'd rather take a true Center with huge defensive potential, over a shot blocking PF who doesn't have an offensive game.
Yep.
But Kanter has slimmed down significantly. He's getting better moving on his feet. Plus he has a PF game (solid back to basket game, improving face up game and already a very good spot up shooting game).
I really do think Kanter will abuse most PFs in this league offensively.
Millsap was my 1st favorite player on the team 2 years ago. Doesn't mean he will win EVER us a Championship though, does it?
It's not a corner diary we're running here bro, it's a multi-million dollar operation.
Are you stupid?
Ughh... do I have to explain??
I was drawing a comparison between Favors & Millsap... Millsap was a fan favorite as well, a hard working guy who never complained and played 110% at all time. But it was painfully obvious that he's just too undersized to compete in this league as a PF and bring us any meaningful playoffs run.
Unless Favors develop any offensive game, I don't think he should be a part of our future.
Sorry for the stupid thing, I'm having a bad day.
But I didn't say anything about championship nor anything related with it. And I didn't say anything about Favors or another player being a championship material.
On the contrary, because of my love for Favors, I stated that I hope he continues to improve and stays healthy, so that he could be an important part of the team in the long term, hopefully in the path of a championship. If he becomes not worthy to stay in the team one day, then shoo him, I'm fine with that. I didn't want Millsap on the team either, even though I too liked him.
That's being said, I do believe Favors can contribute for a championship in the right system and the right team even without improving his offense much. But that's another subject to argue about.
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Ellipse
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Actually, I think Favors compliments Kanter's game better than Gobert ever will. I see Gobert as the first big off the bench ... at least for next couple of years.
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This is a stupid thread right now.
I guarantee that if favors stays healthy then none of our back up bigs will have a shot in hell at taking his starting job.
He is better in offense than he gets credit for and he is better on defense than gobert right now.... favors is going to be averaging 3 blocks per game, probably a double double, and be in the running for most improved player, defensive player of the year, and will miss the all star game but not by much.
Gobert will not even be close to ready to take favors job by the end of the year
I guarantee that if favors stays healthy then none of our back up bigs will have a shot in hell at taking his starting job.
He is better in offense than he gets credit for and he is better on defense than gobert right now.... favors is going to be averaging 3 blocks per game, probably a double double, and be in the running for most improved player, defensive player of the year, and will miss the all star game but not by much.
Gobert will not even be close to ready to take favors job by the end of the year
candrew
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I loved Gobert's energy in the Summer League. A high energy/hustle guy who happens to be 7 feet tall is a rare find. Having said that I see Gobert as a Chris Anderson type - come off the bench and play hard 4-7 minutes at a stretch. Couple of blocks, couple of put backs and a few rebounds and I'll be thrilled.
Litany
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Anyone here play fantasy football?
This reminds me of all of the Jared Cook threads after one good showing in game 1.
Actually, it's worse, because Gobert had maybe two nice blocks and now he's better than our best player. If Gobert is better than Favors and that turns out to be true we are screwed for the next five years unless we get a top 3 next year.
This reminds me of all of the Jared Cook threads after one good showing in game 1.
Actually, it's worse, because Gobert had maybe two nice blocks and now he's better than our best player. If Gobert is better than Favors and that turns out to be true we are screwed for the next five years unless we get a top 3 next year.
I'm with fish on this. Gogurt is not and will not be better than Favors by the end of the year.
but...
by all means lets dissect their games based on the ultra competitive and cleanly played scrimmage.
addictionary
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Favors can destroy any center's ace in the league defensively and in the means of badassdom.
Gobert should play this year. He should be a backup and replace Favors when he comes out of the game. Is he ready to replace Favors? He could end up replacing Favors if he wants too much money and the Jazz say see ya!!!
Favors should sign an extension now because if Kanter/Gobert out play him he takes a big chance of losing some huge money. Another thing he has to worry about is if the Jazz get a top 3 pick, he might have another big body to content with.
Favors needs to just play hard and continue to grow and if he does that he will have nothing to worry about. For me, this is a make it year for Favors, if he can not score around 16-18 pts a game, I will be disappointed and wouldn't give him a huge contract.
Favors should sign an extension now because if Kanter/Gobert out play him he takes a big chance of losing some huge money. Another thing he has to worry about is if the Jazz get a top 3 pick, he might have another big body to content with.
Favors needs to just play hard and continue to grow and if he does that he will have nothing to worry about. For me, this is a make it year for Favors, if he can not score around 16-18 pts a game, I will be disappointed and wouldn't give him a huge contract.
cctrackstar
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Well, could he? As far as I know, there is nothing wrong with him. He has size and an amazing triangular frame which means that he could put on plenty of lean muscle. He is plenty fast and jumps really well for his size. He appears to be mentally sound and intelligent. He has talent. The good news for us is that if we sign Favors this year sometime than we will have four years to figure it out before GoBear becomes a free agent, so we will have plenty of info on him. Do I think it'll happen? They were both drafted on potential, GoBear was late first instead of top three because of bad coaching and obscurity.
Yeah, I'm stalling.
Yes, it 'could' happen. Ya. It could. Nothing against Favors, but he's got to keep on his toes because there is a new player drafted every year, and this year it is someone who is as agile as he is but three inches taller with a wingspan that exceeds his already massive wingspan. It's all up to what's in their respective heads.
Yeah, I'm stalling.
Yes, it 'could' happen. Ya. It could. Nothing against Favors, but he's got to keep on his toes because there is a new player drafted every year, and this year it is someone who is as agile as he is but three inches taller with a wingspan that exceeds his already massive wingspan. It's all up to what's in their respective heads.
I might just start calling Gogurt "Bear" instead... just to keep things simple. Maybe even just "Jazz Bear".