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LogGrad98 said:
None of these politicians can claim credit for any of those changes. No tax on tips is already a thing in multiple states and has been floated at the federal level for decades. Child tax credit is a recurring idea that generally Democrats want to expand and Republicans want to kill. For either side to claim "credit" for decades-old legislative efforts as their "idea" is preposterous in the extreme.

Fact is that's a big concern I have with both sides in this one, no new ideas.
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The devil is in the details. The tax free tip plans republicans propose also bleed over into Wall Street. They can write off some of their income as tax free tips. Democratic proposals don’t include the same stuff as Republicans. Ted Cruz tried this a while back:

As usual, I have the receipts

Nevertheless, the No Tax on Tips Act is deeply flawed; it would leave out the more than 95 percent of low- and moderate-wage workers who are not in tipped occupations. And in many cases, the tax cuts it would provide low- and moderate-wage tipped workers would be small or nonexistent. This is a much worse approach to lifting working families than the American Rescue Plan’s enhancements to the earned income tax credit (EITC) and child tax credit (CTC), which the Biden administration and congressional Democrats such as Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) have proposed making permanent. A single parent with one child making $19,000 in tips and $5,000 in wages, for example, would receive no tax cut from Sen. Cruz’s bill—as shown in Table 1. The restoration of the American Rescue Plan’s CTC expansion, on the other hand, would give them a full $1,090 tax cut.

At the same time, the No Tax on Tips Act contains few, if any, guardrails to prevent high-income professionals such as hedge fund managers from shifting their compensation to a tax-free tipping model. Given the difference in tax rates, the tax breaks from exempting part of these high earners’ income from income taxes would be far larger than any tax breaks for lower-income workers. For instance, a married couple making $1 million in wages could get a tax cut of $180,000 by shifting half of those wages to tax-free tips.

Sen. Cruz’s bill attempts to cover for the regressivity of the 2017 tax law but opens the door to even larger tax cuts for the wealthy.
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The Thriller said:
The devil is in the details. The tax free tip plans republicans propose also bleed over into Wall Street. They can write off some of their income as tax free tips. Democratic proposals don’t include the same stuff as Republicans. Ted Cruz tried this a while back:

As usual, I have the receipts


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But of course. Why am I not surprised

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You really cannot say that Kennedy does not have a very clear understanding of Trump….

“…..Kennedy suggested Trump’s leadership had damaged American attempts to spread democracy worldwide.

“If you live in China today, and you’re looking at what’s happening in the United States, why would you ever say, we wanna switch our system for that system, which can produce that kind of buffoonery at a high level,” added Kennedy. “I think President Trump is purposefully and systematically encouraging tyrannical governments around the world.”

Speaking with Yahoo Finance in January 2020, Kennedy made similar comments.

“Well, I think the problem is, number one, he’s a bully. And you know, I don’t like bullies and I don’t think – America – that’s part of America’s tradition. I think in many ways he’s discredited the American experiment with self-governance,” Kennedy added.

In August 2016, during an interview with Larry King, Kennedy expressed deep concerns about Trump’s rise to power, calling it “scary.” Kennedy noted the potential harm of leaders who exploit these darker elements of society.

“The easiest thing for a political leader to do is to appeal to our bigotry and our hatred and xenophobia and prejudice, and point to people who are unlike us and say they’re the ones who are damaging our country,” he said.

 
fishonjazz said:
But of course. Why am I not surprised

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I’ve been assured many times on this website that democrats are the party of the corrupt billionaires and Trump is a warrior of the working class. I’m pretty sure his tax cuts hurt rich people and really helped poor people. Right?
 
This is what happens when you think our dead heroes are suckers and losers and are only important when you are attempting to use them as a cheap political prop

View: https://x.com/davidfolkenflik/status/1828564672490152400?s=46


No different than when Donald held the Bible upside down in front of a church after gassing people.

Nothing is sacred to him. As long as it helps him win reelection so he can stay out of prison? Anything goes!

Im sure the non-MAGA conservatives on this site will be up in arms over this latest assault on our troops. /s
 
"Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected.Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote.Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned.Only 1 President has ever been criminally indicted.And only ONE President has done ALL FOUR.-DJT didn't lower your taxes (He deferred them)-He didn't get you that healthcare coverage-He did not unite the USA, he divided it-He didn't lower your prescription prices-Didn't get your roads or bridges built-He didn't decrease the deficit-He didn't end the opioid crisis-He made over 250 visits to his golf clubs costing us taxpayers $150 million-He didn't revive the coal industry-He didn't make covid-19 'disappear'-He didn't make Mexico pay for the wall-He is ranked the worst President in history-He added $2 Billion a month in tariff costs to the American consumer-He has a net-negative jobs creations for his administration-He decreased corporate taxes, passing the tax burden to the workers-He added $ 7.8 Trillion to the deficit - a full 25% of the total-He incited an insurrection against our government-He is the only president to never achieve 50% approval.-He didn't put "America first" and he sure didn't "Drain the Swamp...-He left office with the worst job numbers of any President since the Great Depression with a net job loss over his term-THE ONLY PRESIDENT TO BE CONVICTED OF A FELONY!"
 
The Thriller said:
I’ve been assured many times on this website that democrats are the party of the corrupt billionaires and Trump is a warrior of the working class. I’m pretty sure his tax cuts hurt rich people and really helped poor people. Right?
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It's perception as much as anything else. Look at how you talk about "them". Look at you, othering just like the repubs are doing.
 
str8line said:
"Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected.Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote.Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned.Only 1 President has ever been criminally indicted.And only ONE President has done ALL FOUR.-DJT didn't lower your taxes (He deferred them)-He didn't get you that healthcare coverage-He did not unite the USA, he divided it-He didn't lower your prescription prices-Didn't get your roads or bridges built-He didn't decrease the deficit-He didn't end the opioid crisis-He made over 250 visits to his golf clubs costing us taxpayers $150 million-He didn't revive the coal industry-He didn't make covid-19 'disappear'-He didn't make Mexico pay for the wall-He is ranked the worst President in history-He added $2 Billion a month in tariff costs to the American consumer-He has a net-negative jobs creations for his administration-He decreased corporate taxes, passing the tax burden to the workers-He added $ 7.8 Trillion to the deficit - a full 25% of the total-He incited an insurrection against our government-He is the only president to never achieve 50% approval.-He didn't put "America first" and he sure didn't "Drain the Swamp...-He left office with the worst job numbers of any President since the Great Depression with a net job loss over his term-THE ONLY PRESIDENT TO BE CONVICTED OF A FELONY!"
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LogGrad98 said:
It's perception as much as anything else. Look at how you talk about "them". Look at you, othering just like the repubs are doing.
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The correct take here is that they both have billionaire backing and are full of elites and that needs to be recognized. It's also obvious, that one is less insane and in a two-party system we have to choose one.

At least we have hope to push the less insane side in the right direction over time (slowly, like at a snails pace).
 
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