I saw the states where he won the majority. I beg to differ.
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I saw the states where he won the majority. I beg to differ.
DutchJazzer
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i decided trump is better then obummer and hillary cus he will tell iran to shove the deal where the son dont shine.
still prefer any combination of carson, fiorina and perry
(only included carson and fiorina cus i dont wannna be called racist or sexist /joke)
still prefer any combination of carson, fiorina and perry
(only included carson and fiorina cus i dont wannna be called racist or sexist /joke)
UGLI baby
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500 billion reps if you find and resurrect the thread where I convinced you I didn't know who Gretzky was, and that they shouldn't charge fans for tickets or smthng
Classy...
DutchJazzer
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i seriously dont really give a **** about domestic policy, i have my opinion of what domestic policies should be. but it does not affect me.
what effects me is obama and his crap iran deal. it is anti-semetic and obama is an enemy of israel. anyone who supports this crapdeal with "anytime" "anywhere" inspections by "Iranian inspectors" is ********.
and seriously **** OBUMMER, KERRY and CLINTON!
Explain why it's anti-Semitic.
DutchJazzer
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it is a real and present danger to the survival of israel.
DutchJazzer
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heck this iran deal is not only anti semetic. it is anti-america.
Why?
bjwsan
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Yep, pretty much, just ignore racism, and it will go away.
This reads pretty much like you cut and pasted it from Breitbart.com
When I was an LDS missionary, the sure sign that discussing the Book of Mormon with anyone was never going to go anywere was when they cited the scripture in Revelation about adding and subtracting.
In similar vein, when discussing race issues, the sure sign that the conservation is going nowhere is when the other person mentions Al Sharpton.
It's like the Godwin's law of race discussions. Sooner or later, someone on the right will invoke Al Sharpton, as if it were sufficient to discredit any and all considerations of race issues that don't pretty much hew the conservative talking points on race issues.
Believe it or not, there's plenty of us progressive who don't take our marching orders from Sharpton.
I know, hard to fathom, but true.
Hard to fathom? Hard to read English, too? Hey I'm new at this so guess I'll learn, but when you rant about something which wasn't said and focus on a 'mention' that was to say this is different than Al... color me naive for trying to have a conversation... intelligent or otherwise
DutchJazzer
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to put it in simple terms.
if someone screams death to gandalfe all day long for years on end. the last thing we should d is hand them a gun. cus they will shoot you with it.
hope it simple enough for ur stupid little brain to understand.
Have you actually READ the deal? Are you even capable of understanding it? Forget what Fox news says about it. READ THE DEAL.
Here, let me make it easy for you. There's some FAQs at the top, and then a link to the actual text of it.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/foreign-policy/iran-deal
bjwsan
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Ya! That's right. READ THE DEAL! The Iran version or the US version? Ok, USE THE LINK... The one that starts with the title: The Historic Deal that will Prevent Iran from Acquiring a Nuclear Weapon.
Uh... but both Iran, Kerry and anyone who has been asked admits that this deal only delays acquisition... Oh, shizzl... can't even get past the title on the US version...
But there's only one version, right? There are NO unreleased, undisclosed, secret letters or agreements with European governments so they can continue business with Iran...
Well, never mind. Let's just make this simple. Agree with whatever deal, or agree that we'll just bomb the hell out of them. There are no other options.
OK, I'll support something that says IT is what IT isn't, that both sides still disagree what IT is, and that has many undisclosed/secret ITs to IT... S#IT
Racialist
jimmy eat jazz
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Your post covered a number of right wing blogosphere talking points:
-Sharpton and Jackson (and by extension other 'race baiters') are responsible for racial tensions (and not the actual continuing existence of structural and persistent racism): Check
-Dismiss Black Lives Matter (and thus the message it is seeking to convery) because one of it's principles may not be compeltely on the up and up: Check
-Michael Brown didn't deserve to die (wink wink), but by golly hell, he sure brought it on himself and was fully to blame for it: Check
I do give you props, however, for conceding that George Zimmerman dick who many not have been as innocent as he claimed.
I reacted to your mentioning of Al Sharpton, because I'm wholly sick and tired of folks on the right continually invoking his name in discussions over race. It's a 'debtating' ploy meant to achieve two objectives: (1) redirect the discussion away from actual issues related to race to a attack conveniently created right wing staw man, which then (for some reason I haven't figure out) apparently is sufficient to discredit anyone else who may share any common beliefs with Sharpton and (2) deny that there are any real racial issues (such as lingering racism or remaining structural barriers), but that any tensions around race issues is merely the invention of the loud mouthed race baiters.
You may not have meant it that way, but then, why bring it up? What possible productive purpose can there be for anyone who truly wants to have a meaningful discussion on race to invoke Al Sharpton? In my experience, invoking his name is a clear sign that the person is not interested in a meaningful discussion on race, for reasons cited above.
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jimmy eat jazz
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Hmmm, I don't know. Use it in a sentence.
bjwsan
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Nicely done, and pretty succinct. Thank you for reading this one. You may have won the majority of the points. Guess I need to see if they have an Aryan Nations chapter here in Munich... oh... snap, got to make sure I don't confused that with Aryan Race, right? That's back in Idaho and some LDS spin-off... no?
Sharpton/Jackson: Yes Virginia, there can be structural and persistent racial injustices, and also self-interested blowhards who stoke it for their own purposes. The two are not mutually exclusive, and the discussion was 'now' vs 'then'. They were the 'then', sorry, just cuz you don't like to hear it, it wasn't a debate distraction, it was the point.
I dissed Black Lives Matter on the simple fact that it is racist. Unequal rights. Black lives matter, not All. Racist. But, yea, I had to poke fun when a principle is not 'on the up and up'. Well, he's actually a lair, not what he claims to be, actually took money away from others. A real Soulman. Forgive me, it was too easy.
Michael Brown: there was no wink, wink. It's horrible that the kid died, it's bad that the cop had his life ruined (but death is clearly worse than being ostracized and displaced). The incident wasn't about him being black. It was about him being a bully and high and making a stupid decision. Many other police brutality cases valid for attention. This one became a 'rally cry', too bad the facts didn't fit the narrative.
I'll make sure to not mention either of the 'Rev. Pimp' in future posts, you might want to step away from the 'Al Sharpton ledge'
BTW, I would ask you to direct me to these right wing blogospheres and Breitbart sites you're so taken with, but I don't have time. Drudge may not be your cup of tea, but for me, it provides the easiest to access and most diverse news sources. But thanks for the insights.
bjwsan
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A! S&#@$^*+ only cares about himself.
(Yep, said I wasn't going to mention him again!)