Defense is a huge asset it today's NBA. Teams lust over defensive minded big men. Favors would have gotten this if not more if the Jazz waited out the season. IMO anyway.
Favors got extended
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MVP
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As sad as it is you are right, we have Portlands, New Yorks and Dallases who can throw money like that at unproven potential and won't feel any financial pain at all.
I still think it is a risk since Jazz had right to match any offers. Injuries can happen and derail career of young kid who's biggest asset is physical superiority. Outside of being athletic freak what else Favors have?
GVC
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It's unfortunate the Jazz couldn't get Favors at 11 per, but 4 years, $49mm is fine. There's a good chance he would have received an offer sheet of that size next summer and an equally good chance this new contract can be dumped for nothing if necessary. It's worth noting that injuries can also happen after a player's 4th year in the league (strange point since you've argued that AK would still have received a max offer sheet despite missing half the Jazz's games in 04/05...).
berkkobe
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george sucks bro he is overrated he shots %41 and yet they labeled my man caramel anton a chucker.
Lance Stephenson is better than pol gorg.
While I agree with Paul George being overrated, you lost a lot of creditability with the Lance is better than Paul. I would think you would be the only one who thinks that way.
Favors needs to focus on being Tyson Chandler--- game-changing defender and a serious pick and roll threat. Though Chandler is a good free throw shooter. Favors needs that. Though I believe Favors 15 footer is better than Chandler's now.
Note that Tyson made about 11 mil/per year in Dallas. He hadn't shown a lot prior to that.
Note that Tyson made about 11 mil/per year in Dallas. He hadn't shown a lot prior to that.
berkkobe
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Maybe i'm a homer but when i look at my man Lance, i see Dwyane Wade. His game ressembles to Wade's game. If they give him the opportunity, he can show what he has.
Indiana made a big mistake extending george to MAX. lol he is paid more than james harden who is clearly more efficient than pol gorg
Of course he has to produce but I don't think his contract is any where near as toxic as AK's was.
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Has anybody ever thought of comparing Favors to Tyson Chandler?
Thoughts...
Thoughts...
MVP
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You are right, when I posted that I thought about the same year Jazz offered him his max deal. On the other hand those two injuries where freak accidents which might or might not affected AK's contract size ( nothing like ACL injury or broken ankle or something like that with long lingering effects). He still finished leading league in blocks per game that season despite only playing 41 game.
GVC
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What? How would that hurt his per game averages?
Yes you are being a homer in regards to Lance, he was almost out of the league a few years ago because of his poor attitude. He has talent but he is very inconsistent and still a little bit of a knucklehead. I agree that Indy was stupid to give George the MAX, I just hope the Jazz aren't stupid either even though they have made a few mistakes in the past. I agree that Harden is a better player than George but in my opinion he hasn't earn the right to be a MAX player either.
Unfortunately, too many very good players or potentially good players are given the MAX. To me you have to be the Main guy or second guy on a team and you have to have proven it over the length of your first contracts. I think MAX deals should be for guys like Kobe, Lebron, Kevin Durant, healthy Derrick Rose, young Dirk, healthy Wade, young Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Carmelo perhaps Chris Paul and Deron Williams when they were at the top of their games not so much recently.
Borderline guys are DW, CP3, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Irving, healthy Brandon Roy, healthy Seth Curry.
GVC
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1. Max contracts vary depending on service time (Kobe's making $30mm this season). You thought Harden was an MLE player before he was traded...He's definitely a max player.
2. CP3 is borderline? You might want to start watching games.
Chad Feldheimer
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My take is the Jazz paid him a couple of million extra each year to lock him up now. They just couldn't risk him having a huge year and having to pay through the nose to keep or just losing him anyway. 4/40 is probably closer to his value now, but to lock him up it cost the extra 9 million.
I think people have forgotten just how much of an impact Favors makes because of his quiet pre-season performances. With consistent starter minutes, increased confidence, and more respect from referees, he should AT LEAST improve his fouling rate. And with that minimal improvement, with everything else staying the same, the Jazz still got a decent deal. But chances are he'll improve in several ways over the next couple of years, making this a very good move.
I for one am very happy with the news.
I for one am very happy with the news.
Folks we should all feel very good about this.
If Favors is 14/10/2 this upcoming season - and i feel like those are conservative/accurate projections - than $12M/per is absolutely market value. And lets not forget, he's still just 22 years old. I don't think Favors will ever be a frontline superstar but I think he will definitely anchor our frontcourt for as long as he's in SLC. And you're simply not going to get anyone who can successfully fill that role for less than what we paid him.
If he exceeds those numbers, and does become an All-Star caliber player, than we have ourselves a steal. I t
If Favors is 14/10/2 this upcoming season - and i feel like those are conservative/accurate projections - than $12M/per is absolutely market value. And lets not forget, he's still just 22 years old. I don't think Favors will ever be a frontline superstar but I think he will definitely anchor our frontcourt for as long as he's in SLC. And you're simply not going to get anyone who can successfully fill that role for less than what we paid him.
If he exceeds those numbers, and does become an All-Star caliber player, than we have ourselves a steal. I t
Folks we should all feel very good about this.
If Favors is 14/10/2 this upcoming season - and i feel like those are conservative/accurate projections - than $12M/per is absolutely market value. And lets not forget, he's still just 22 years old. I don't think Favors will ever be a frontline superstar but I think he will definitely anchor our frontcourt for as long as he's in SLC. And you're simply not going to get anyone who can successfully fill that role for less than what we paid him.
If he exceeds those numbers, and does become an All-Star caliber player, than we have ourselves a steal. I think the extension now was the smart, conservative move by both parties to lock in some long-term security.
If Favors is 14/10/2 this upcoming season - and i feel like those are conservative/accurate projections - than $12M/per is absolutely market value. And lets not forget, he's still just 22 years old. I don't think Favors will ever be a frontline superstar but I think he will definitely anchor our frontcourt for as long as he's in SLC. And you're simply not going to get anyone who can successfully fill that role for less than what we paid him.
If he exceeds those numbers, and does become an All-Star caliber player, than we have ourselves a steal. I think the extension now was the smart, conservative move by both parties to lock in some long-term security.