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I agree that looking at things from a different angle and perspective is a great idea because it encourages you to potentially look at the situation by being in others' shoes.

It's also true that actions are actions and words are exactly that, words, so that blog with words doesn't change my opinion. It shouldn't be that much of a massive effort to Look DL/Quin/some players in the eye, shake their hand and say thanks for everything, but I'm leaving.

What is also true is that Gordon gave his all whilst he was here, and I feel like the Jazz reciprocated.

I have no qualms about him leaving as his reasons were valid, even though he had valid reasons to stay too.

Anyway, we need to move on. We have a mysterious team this season which brings about a bunch of nervous but positive excitement in me!

the fact that he couldn't even call and speak to the guy who was supposed to be his best friend on the team speaks volumes. He's either a total coward or arsehole. Or both
 
the fact that he couldn't even call and speak to the guy who was supposed to be his best friend on the team speaks volumes. He's either a total coward or arsehole. Or both

It's pretty weak of Gordon whichever way you want to spin it. He made sure to let IT know apparently, but not some of the guys he was close with at Utah. I'm not surprised Jingles is unimpressed.
 
the fact that he couldn't even call and speak to the guy who was supposed to be his best friend on the team speaks volumes. He's either a total coward or arsehole. Or both

I can't wait to see what happens when he and Jingling are matched up in a game. It's going to be very entertaining.
 
What is also true is that Gordon gave his all whilst he was here, and I feel like the Jazz reciprocated.

I have no qualms about him leaving as his reasons were valid, even though he had valid reasons to stay too.

Anyway, we need to move on. We have a mysterious team this season which brings about a bunch of nervous but positive excitement in me!
I agree with this. I'm disappointed, but I'm OK with him leaving. There's even a pretty good chance that after 7 years in Utah I would have made the same decision. The only problem I have is with his process and the way he tormented the fans on the 4th. I think his mind was made up much earlier than he wanted us to believe, and he could have done the Jazz a big favor by announcing immediately. I also suspect the Miami trip was to avoid the appearance of tampering. In any case, he earned the right to do what he wants and I'm ready to move on with guys we got.
 
I agree with this. I'm disappointed, but I'm OK with him leaving. There's even a pretty good chance that after 7 years in Utah I would have made the same decision. The only problem I have is with his process and the way he tormented the fans on the 4th. I think his mind was made up much earlier than he wanted us to believe, and he could have done the Jazz a big favor by announcing immediately. I also suspect the Miami trip was to avoid the appearance of tampering. In any case, he earned the right to do what he wants and I'm ready to move on with guys we got.

That just shows him to be weak and disingenuous. Imagine if a good friend, or at least someone you thought to be, did to you what he did to Jingling. I wonder too how much his agent had to do with the way it was handled. Not that it excuses him but at least would show the pressure he was under. I myself would've told the agent to take a hike because the agent wasn't concerned for Hayward but about getting a bigger check.
 
Actually, I think his agent was the fall guy in this. Hayward made his decision and it was uncovered before the official posting. So Cowardly Lion made Bartlestein concoct the story that came out. Like others, I'm disappointed he left, but I understand. It was the way he left that was truly classless. The timing could have been better, but he wanted to be wined and dined. He got his ego stroked in front of the Mrs; that was important to him (it's not like he's been the only one to do so).

If life were truly fair, Cleveland would whip Boston in the EC Finals and Utah would somehow find a way to get past GS and play for the title. And the Boston media would emasculate Gordon and Stevens.
 
Actually, I think his agent was the fall guy in this. Hayward made his decision and it was uncovered before the official posting. So Cowardly Lion made Bartlestein concoct the story that came out. Like others, I'm disappointed he left, but I understand. It was the way he left that was truly classless. The timing could have been better, but he wanted to be wined and dined. He got his ego stroked in front of the Mrs; that was important to him (it's not like he's been the only one to do so).

If life were truly fair, Cleveland would whip Boston in the EC Finals and Utah would somehow find a way to get past GS and play for the title. And the Boston media would emasculate Gordon and Stevens.

If you are right, that reflects even more poorly on Hayward. But I suspect you may be, especially recalling the interview the agent gave on one of the Utah radio shows, forget which one. That's why I already got my ticket for the game on March 28 -- it should prove to be very interesting.
 
In Boston, Hayward will get more national TV coverage, he'll have a chance to start at the All Star game, he'll have a coach who has his back, and he'll basically get a bye to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Meanwhile, Boston fans were already embracing him before he even got there. His decision makes a lot of sense, tbh.
 
The Jazz can come out better than having Gordon Hayward on a max contract, but they have to nail this next draft like they appear to have done with Mitchell, and they have to play their cards right.
 
In Boston, Hayward will get more national TV coverage, he'll have a chance to start at the All Star game, he'll have a coach who has his back, and he'll basically get a bye to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Meanwhile, Boston fans were already embracing him before he even got there. His decision makes a lot of sense, tbh.

makes a lot of sense if you haven't built up any significant connections with guys you've been in the trenches with for years and are only interested in purely your own little bubble. He's a freaking weird spineless jellyfish.

Starting in a boring meaningless all star game .. yay. Go Gordon. And "a coach who has his back"... that's one of the more stupid statements i've ever read on this board. What do you think Quin did for him for 3 years ??
 
In Boston, Hayward will get more national TV coverage, he'll have a chance to start at the All Star game, he'll have a coach who has his back, and he'll basically get a bye to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Meanwhile, Boston fans were already embracing him before he even got there. His decision makes a lot of sense, tbh.

plus Boston fans won't necessarily embrace him for long when they realise he has no personality and is invested in pretty much just himself. And if the team struggles, who do you think they're gonna get on pretty quickly given they gutted the teams depth for him ?
 
This thread doesn't deserve 5 pages of attention.

I'm so over Haywood, the Jazz will be more fun to watch this year anyway.
 
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