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Cyrone Torbin said:
No, just saying Miller won't be able to put up BIG numbers because Baylor's offense is centered around Jones. UK, from what I've seen, don't really run their offense through anyone, making it more equal opportunity.
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Don't get the logic at all, but it's cool. Question. Which player do you think will get more shot attempts (that are not a result of an offensive rebound) between the two?

I like both guys, it's just that K-G imposes his will on the game vs. QMiller being a player that expects his teammates to get him the ball and let him be the man.
 
Verlin said:
No we dont. We really should move on collison.
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Yo Verlin .. tonight 'our' boy Shabazz played in the City of Palms Classic in Fort Myers. HUGE tourney with the best teams in the nation. Unfortunately, 'our' boy got hampered early with some foul trouble (2 in the first quarter, was put back in before the half and got a 3rd ..). I wonder what he could have done if not worried about foul trouble and a little more playing time? Oh well .. guess he'll have to be satisfied with another 42pt performance .. poor kid.
 
PKM said:
Don't get the logic at all, but it's cool. Question. Which player do you think will get more shot attempts (that are not a result of an offensive rebound) between the two?

I like both guys, it's just that K-G imposes his will on the game vs. QMiller being a player that expects his teammates to get him the ball and let him be the man.
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Doesn't really matter since Hood is better than both of them.

Game winning shots:

Hood - 1

KG- 0

Miler - 0
 
He is special. Too bad they could not pull off the win. He is kind of a a man amongst boys out there as a hs kid. Not to put too much praise on him, but he reminds me of lebron while in high school. His approach is just screaming future mega star.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Doesn't really matter since Hood is better than both of them.

Game winning shots:

Hood - 1

KG- 0

Miler - 0
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I know man, here's a shoulder .. it'll be okay. Chin up, kid, you've got an early start and given a few (thousand) years, you'll make one heck of a message board scout.
 
Well, I guess we should add Doron Lamb to the SG watch. Kid has been unbelievable this year. He plays backup PG when Teague site (and does a better job at this point), he's the best on the team at creating his own shot, an above-average defender, and is shooting over 50% from 3 for his career. Right now I'd put him neck-and-neck with JLamb .. a step ahead of Beal or Rivers (he is a year older than those guys, though). I'm not suggesting he has the same upside, but he is UK's leading scorer this year and is currently UK's ALL-TIME leading 3pt shooter. No mistakes, do-it-all .. anyway, worth watching.
 
^^^ One more thing, DLamb is at 52% from 3 this year averaging around 5 attempts per game.

Also, tonight Texas vs. UNC. (Myck Kabongo vs. Kendall Marshall)
 
PKM said:
Well, I guess we should add Doron Lamb to the SG watch. Kid has been unbelievable this year. He plays backup PG when Teague site (and does a better job at this point), he's the best on the team at creating his own shot, an above-average defender, and is shooting over 50% from 3 for his career. Right now I'd put him neck-and-neck with JLamb .. a step ahead of Beal or Rivers (he is a year older than those guys, though). I'm not suggesting he has the same upside, but he is UK's leading scorer this year and is currently UK's ALL-TIME leading 3pt shooter. No mistakes, do-it-all .. anyway, worth watching.
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What do you think about him playing PG on the NBA level? He doesn't have many assists, but doesn't have many turnovers either. That counts for a lot in my book.
 
I just wanted to know what everyone thought about Beal being a pg in the NBA. He doesn't seem like the best distributor but he could be a great threat from long range and that would free up space for Favors, Hayward Burks and so on.

Thoughts?
 
I'd be a little pessimistic about either DLamb or Beal playing primarily the PG position in the NBA. Having said that, I'd put DLamb in that position before Beal. Kid is calm and cool under pressure, ice-water in his veins. Makes no mistakes, astonishingly high bbIQ, and never turn the ball over. Having said that, I think either could be capable of sliding over and giving the PG a rest for 10-12 minutes per game. DLamb is maybe the best pure shooter in the NCAA and doesn't have to be setup to nail them. Watch a game or two of his and you see he can score in anyway he needs to. Calipari said that DLamb may not be the best pro prospect on the team, but is the best bb player he's got.
 
PKM said:
I'd be a little pessimistic about either DLamb or Beal playing primarily the PG position in the NBA. Having said that, I'd put DLamb in that position before Beal. Kid is calm and cool under pressure, ice-water in his veins. Makes no mistakes, astonishingly high bbIQ, and never turn the ball over. Having said that, I think either could be capable of sliding over and giving the PG a rest for 10-12 minutes per game. DLamb is maybe the best pure shooter in the NCAA and doesn't have to be setup to nail them. Watch a game or two of his and you see he can score in anyway he needs to. Calipari said that DLamb may not be the best pro prospect on the team, but is the best bb player he's got.
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I'll have to check out D Lamb more but I like what you're saying. If he CAN play PG, then that's awesome, as he doesn't HAVE to play PG. Ideally, you have two players that can handle the ball and create for others (makes it exponentially more difficult for a defense to gameplan). If you can get a wing to also be a secondary playmaker then you go for it.

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6' 4" 170??? Yikes. Still an interesting player. I doubt he gets to the line like he does in college (which is a factor in his efficient scoring), but his shooting is rill, rill nice.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'll have to check out D Lamb more but I like what you're saying. If he CAN play PG, then that's awesome, as he doesn't HAVE to play PG. Ideally, you have two players that can handle the ball and create for others (makes it exponentially more difficult for a defense to gameplan). If you can get a wing to also be a secondary playmaker then you go for it.

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6' 4" 170??? Yikes. Still an interesting player. I doubt he gets to the line like he does in college (which is a factor in his efficient scoring), but his shooting is rill, rill nice.
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He's worth taking a look in an in-game situation.
 
This is my stab at what I think the Jazz's projected draft board looks like at this juncture of the college season. What do you guys think?

1 Davis -- defensive phenom who can play out on the floor
2 Drummond -- big-time talented big, you have to take him
3 Jones III -- a guy who can create mismatches and either score or feed the post, Lamar Odom type
4 Kidd-Gilchrist -- all-around, high-energy player
5 Q. Miller -- tall SF with passing & scoring upside
6 Barnes -- shooter with some upside
7 Henson -- back-up PF/C, stretch-Armstrong defender
8 J. Lamb -- quick, gifted shooter
9 Beal -- well-rounded back-court player
10 Rivers -- back-court energy player with ability to get to the rim
11 T. Jones -- rebounder/defender, a big, physical SF or back-up PF with some post-up ability (a slightly bigger Millsap)
12 T. Ross -- Alec Burks with a more confident shooting stroke and a bit more explosiveness around the rim

Somewhere around 7 - 9, the Jazz would probably pick Sullinger and/or Thomas Robinson as part of a draft-day trade scheme.
 
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