Following potential 2012 draftees
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I don't know that Rivers can play a true PG position, but he would be great as a first guy off the bench.
Additionally, the way that Hayward has developed as a playmaking type guard I think Rivers could be very effective as a spot shooter/slasher defending the pg position.
Additionally, the way that Hayward has developed as a playmaking type guard I think Rivers could be very effective as a spot shooter/slasher defending the pg position.
Also, the UK vs. Vandy game the other night was a perfect example of why we don't need MKG. He doesn't have to be guarded outside of 15 feet at all.
He looks like Jamall Crawford to me. Would you want Crawford as our starting PG? Crawford had better APG in college too.
I think his athleticism is a little bit better, personally.
I'm not saying he would be a perfect fit, just explaining how I could see him playing with the team. Honestly, I don't really like any of the PGs in this draft very well. I think our value is much better on someone like Brad Beal or Quincy Miller. It all depends on where we draft I suppose. Different at 9 vs 15.
They seem pretty similar athletically to me. Neither are elite athletes, but have good quickness for their size combined with unreal ball handling and a love for shooting.
The advantage of a player like Rivers is that right off the bat he should be able to do some pretty special things offensively. Drafting say Perry Jones or Quincy Miller would slow down the overall development of the team, IMO.
I'm not really sure who I want most. Beal is impressive to me in that he seems to do almost everything well. That being said, there isn't one thing with Beal that jumps out as a surefire success at the NBA level.
spycam1
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Rivers could become decent at running an offense, imo. The important thing is that he would bring shooting, clutch play, and leadership. And with guys like Hayward, Burks, and Miller on the wings, I don't think it would be as crucial to have an amazing play maker at the PG position.
I don't think we need an amazing player, but I would like to have someone that makes players around him better. I don't see Rivers doing that at all.
orangello
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Who do you want to see the Jazz pick up for that in this years draft?
spycam1
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I get what you mean. Who you liking best from the PG prospects at this point?
I guess Marshall, because he definitely makes players better. Just look at what he did his freshman year for UNC when he took over as the starter, night and day difference in the team.
Machado could be also, but I really have no clue to how he plays and he hasn't played anyone great yet.
orangello
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To me Marshall has more questions than Rivers. I would take Rivers over Marshall.
As a player I would, as a PG, no.
orangello
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How many true PG's are starting in the league? I would say out of the top 10 I would only put DWill and CP3 as pure points. All the rest are more of a shooting PG. Am I missing someone else?
Steve Nash, Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Rubio (off the top of my head).
As of right now Rivers isn't a PG at all. He has poor assist numbers (on a team that is lights out from deep, you think he would be able to get more on just kick outs) and averages more TO's than assist.
orangello
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Yea, I wasn't thinking about Nash at all. Irving is not a pure point. Rubio is not a top 10 IMO. Rondo is in a class all his own. I think that Rivers comes from the Westbrook/Rose mold. It took both of them a couple of years to understand the PG role and even now they still don't do a great job of being a pure point.
Irving is the same kind of PG Paul and Williams are. Just because he doesn't (yet) have gawdy assist numbers doesn't mean he isn't a pure point. He is only 20 years old and is on the Cavs. He is a pure point guard who can also shoot and score.
Dwill4mvp
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PKM is Ryan Harrow a true PG? or if anyone knows anything.. Im looking over future PG prospects and I don't know much about that kid. Maybe Shannon Scott might be someone to look at in the future as well. Just lookin ahead. Not alot to go off on Scott but, he was considered one of the best playmaking PG of his class
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