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Following potential 2014 draftees

Core4 said:
Me too.

And I'm really ok with Vonleh or Exum. Or Embiid, of course, if he falls.

Exum gives us a very nice guard rotation. Between Burks and Exum, they can handle the PG duties when Burke is out. This shifts Hayward to SF full-time. And less is more in terms of Hayward being relied upon less as a ballhandler and more as a shooter.

If we get Vonleh? There are enough minutes at the 4 for him to play behind Kanter. He's not ready to be a starter, so give him (and Gobert) 18 mins each when both Favors and Kanter are healthy and not in foul trouble. Sure, this means zero minutes for Evans. But at some point we have to upgrade.
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If we get any of vonleh, exum or embiid and they don't play a bunch of minutes, the jazz are idiots. These guys need to be playing. None of them say out a year of college like kanter. If we want a star, we need to get them playing time.
 
Here's the latest on Embiid from Bill Simmons:

Q: Wait … what? You watched Joel Embiid work out last week?

A: Yes — at a secret location in Santa Monica. He wasn’t playing against anyone, just going through a two-hour workout with Will Perdue. Here’s what I can tell you: He moves around as effortlessly as a 7-foot Serge Ibaka; he’s such an athletic freak that he’s one of those “still going up as he’s finishing the dunk” guys; his freakish wingspan might make Jay Bilas pass out; he has been playing basketball for only four years (which seems impossible); he gave up a world-class volleyball career; he has 3-point range; he can shoot jump-hooks with both hands already; he couldn’t have seemed more coachable/agreeable/likable; he’s a hard worker with a goofy sense of humor; his voice is just a touch Mutombo-y (deep with a heavy African accent); and his friends call him “Jo-Jo.” And again — his back seemed totally fine.

News flash: As I said on TV before the lottery, Embiid was always going first. None of these teams was passing on him. Repeat: none of them. The amount of smokescreening going on in April and May was high comedy. We keep hearing his back is really screwed up, this could be another Oden situation … Just stop it. This was like sitting at a fantasy football auction next to someone who kept claiming that he wasn’t going to pay big money for a QB … and then, two hours later, he’s bidding $49 for Aaron Rodgers. The truth is, Wiggins and Parker never separated themselves enough this season to warrant anyone saying, “We’re passing on a potential franchise center with a good chance of becoming the 7-foot Serge Ibaka.”
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I wonder if that changes our chance at the top #4?
 
PKM said:
How so?
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I think his thought process is that Embiid's future injury risk may cause him to drop some spots and therefore provide the Jazz the opportunity to take the risk on him and get a "Jazzfanz Concensus Top4" player at #5.
 
White Chocolate said:
We got to hope Orlando passes on Exum for Vonleh or Philadelphia passes on Parker for Randle.
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If Vonleh sneaks into the top-4, it means the draft is now "top-5" in terms of guys who are considered to be possible franchise players. And the Jazz have a top-5 pick. In his post-draft interview, I sensed Lindsey was frustrated Cleveland AGAIN got the #1 pick, but he sounded very pleased the Jazz only dropped 1 spot. I think he knows the #5 pick the Jazz have is much more valuable than the #6. The big mystery in all of this is Exum. Is Exum truly a franchise guard? Because I think he is the most likely to fall to Utah.

No, I'm not trying to start another argument with sahlensguy or jazzfan0124. Teams need a 3-guard rotation. There IS room for Burke, Burks and Exum. But you don't draft a franchise player to come off the bench long-term. He doesn't necessarily have to start this season, but if he's a true combo guard, he can still play 30 mins/per from Day 1. And if he eventually supplants Burke or Burks, then so be it. Of course, this also assumes Hayward is viewed as a SF.

And this is why Utah needs to put a coach in place. He's got to be on the same page as Lindsey in terms of the draft and rotations.
 
Core4 said:
If Vonleh sneaks into the top-4, it means the draft is now "top-5" in terms of guys who are considered to be possible franchise players. And the Jazz have a top-5 pick. In his post-draft interview, I sensed Lindsey was frustrated Cleveland AGAIN got the #1 pick, but he sounded very pleased the Jazz only dropped 1 spot. I think he knows the #5 pick the Jazz have is much more valuable than the #6. The big mystery in all of this is Exum. Is Exum truly a franchise guard? Because I think he is the most likely to fall to Utah.

No, I'm not trying to start another argument with sahlensguy or jazzfan0124. Teams need a 3-guard rotation. There IS room for Burke, Burks and Exum. But you don't draft a franchise player to come off the bench long-term. He doesn't necessarily have to start this season, but if he's a true combo guard, he can still play 30 mins/per from Day 1. And if he eventually supplants Burke or Burks, then so be it. Of course, this also assumes Hayward is viewed as a SF.

And this is why Utah needs to put a coach in place. He's got to be on the same page as Lindsey in terms of the draft and rotations.
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You pick BPA, not to please the new coach...
 
So Embiid goes top 2, Parker slips to 3 or 4, depending on what Philly prefers. Jazz will end up with one out of Parker, Exum or Vonleh.

If they have a strong preference for Parker, they'll put a deal on the table with #5 + Alec Burks to move up to #3.

They could also offer 5+23 to Orlando to move up to 4, but that won't make much meaningful difference.
 
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