Following potential 2014 draftees

[PJKino]

Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDanielsFOX 1h
The word behind the scene is Kansas currently leads for the top 3 big men (Okafor, Turner & Alexander) in the 2014 class. Think about that.

Pretty insane if true but theryes no way all 3 can play together

 

[Dr. Jones]

Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDanielsFOX 1h
The word behind the scene is Kansas currently leads for the top 3 big men (Okafor, Turner & Alexander) in the 2014 class. Think about that.

Pretty insane if true but theryes no way all 3 can play together

Agree. And I'm not buying Okafor at all. MAYBE Turner and ALexander.. but even that is a mild stretch, imo.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

GRIII is good in the 20s i wouldnt before that.

James Young maybe a top 10 pick

 

[ema]

GRIII is good in the 20s i wouldnt before that.

James Young maybe a top 10 pick

Young is the type of player that I would want to have on my team any time. But only if he won't want to be the main guy on the team.

I have a soft spot for good shooters.

 

[BTP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOIqVeNmbU#t=24

Why is this dude a sophomore? Guys his age are usually seniors! Plus it's rare that players his age are projected to be selected this high. Please tell me about him.

edit: After having finished the vid it's clear now

 

[Jazz4ever]

Reading what you've written about GR3 and comparing it with the highlighted qualities in the scouting vid I wonder if anyone watched it?
My concern with him is being a severely undersized SF(In height, wingspan, weight). To defend with his body efficiently he'd have to be very very quick on his feet. Always so far ahead that attackers consistently bump into him drawing charges or altering the driving lane so much that it's an easy job for the help.

I'd have Aaron Harrison rather than him in the 15-20 range. And I'm by far NO Aa. Harrison fan.

If you think GR3 is undersized then so is Hayward. GR3 has superior wingspan and probably equal on reach. They are both 210 pounds right now, which means GR3 will likely end up heavier given his age. Obviously GR3 has the superior athleticism, which gives him another bonus over Hayward. Not saying I am that high on him, but he wouldn't be abused at SF anymore than Hayward is.

 

[The Midnight]

If you think GR3 is undersized then so is Hayward. GR3 has superior wingspan and probably equal on reach. They are both 210 pounds right now, which means GR3 will likely end up heavier given his age. Obviously GR3 has the superior athleticism, which gives him another bonus over Hayward. Not saying I am that high on him, but he wouldn't be abused at SF anymore than Hayward is.

Yup.

 

[Dr. Jones]

@PJKino

Don't count UK out just yet in '14. Spoke with a coach today that said we have commitments from 2 five star guys right now that is not yet public info. Assuming that's true (and I do) that means we already have 3 five star recruits (includings Towns).

Also there are only 2 uncommited players in the top 20 that do not have UK as a finalist.

I'd wager 5 McDonald's all-americans signed to '14 and a top 3 class.... as our 'down' year.

 

[BTP]

If you think GR3 is undersized then so is Hayward. GR3 has superior wingspan and probably equal on reach. They are both 210 pounds right now, which means GR3 will likely end up heavier given his age. Obviously GR3 has the superior athleticism, which gives him another bonus over Hayward. Not saying I am that high on him, but he wouldn't be abused at SF anymore than Hayward is.

Hayward is taller in shoes than Robinson w/o. One can assume that his height w/o shoes is 6'5". There's PGs bigger than that. Plus Hayward is a smart player. Can't say the same about GR3. Hayward was reported to be able to guard both wing positions at times, which may be a result of the overall (lack of) strength and depth of the SG position in the NBA or his versatility. So do you believe Robinson has the same upside or bigger than Hayward?
His athleticism doesn't count as an argument, since GR3 doesn't utilize one bit of it(compare vid section toughness). He won't even use it to establish position when boxing out.

 

[Sexual Favors]

If you think GR3 is undersized then so is Hayward. GR3 has superior wingspan and probably equal on reach. They are both 210 pounds right now, which means GR3 will likely end up heavier given his age. Obviously GR3 has the superior athleticism, which gives him another bonus over Hayward. Not saying I am that high on him, but he wouldn't be abused at SF anymore than Hayward is.

Dude, you're wrong.

Hayward is 6'8" with a 6'8" wingspan
GRIII is 6'6" with a 6'9" wingspan.

I would much rather prefer the 2 more inches on the frame over an inch in wingspan.

As BTP said, there are 6'5" PG's in the elague already, and about to be more w/ Exum, Mudiay, Harrison, etc. Hayward is perfect size for a wing player, GRIII is good size for a SG, not an SF. Since GRIII has played a lot of PF so far, I am skeptical that he will ever amount to anything in the NBA.

 

[orangello]

Was there anyone older than 22? Those that were 22, weren't NBA caliber, or they'd be in the league themselves. He played against kids.

Burks is 6-6, could you imagine him playing SF? No, he belongs at the 2. Hayward is 6-8, and is turning into a beast at SF.

If we're talking GSW pick, I have my eyes set on Selden, James Young, McDermott, Kasey Hill, or Aaron Harrison as potential candidates --all of which have an elite skill. GRIII might look good next year at SF, but that doesn't mean he's suited to play it as a proficient NBA starter (especially over Hayward). I'd prefer to draft bench players with second rounders.

Love this.

 

[BTP]

Dude, you're wrong.

Hayward is 6'8" with a 6'8" wingspan
GRIII is 6'6" with a 6'9" wingspan.

I would much rather prefer the 2 more inches on the frame over an inch in wingspan.

As BTP said, there are 6'5" PG's in the elague already, and about to be more w/ Exum, Mudiay, Harrison, etc. Hayward is perfect size for a wing player, GRIII is good size for a SG, not an SF. Since GRIII has played a lot of PF so far, I am skeptical that he will ever amount to anything in the NBA.

Not much to add, except I find measuring the guys with shoes is silly in general. It's simply to create more 7 and 6 footer to raise their value on paper.
Almost all of these guys love sneaker more than women do shoes and bags. And one night their shoes increase their height half an inch, next night it's 1 1/2. Just measure them w/o shoes always. Do it early in the morning, when they are tallest since most guys take pre game naps anyways. Send one NBA guy on first preseason practice to measure and weigh them.

I guess MCW is the tallest PG entering the league now(I don't count Shaun Livingston).

 

[The Midnight]

@PJKino

Don't count UK out just yet in '14. Spoke with a coach today that said we have commitments from 2 five star guys right now that is not yet public info. Assuming that's true (and I do) that means we already have 3 five star recruits (includings Towns).

Also there are only 2 uncommited players in the top 20 that do not have UK as a finalist.

I'd wager 5 McDonald's all-americans signed to '14 and a top 3 class.... as our 'down' year.

.... you get the point.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Seth Greenberg just scouted a couple of UK's practices and I'll share a few snippets of an Insider article.

Julius Randle, Freshman forward
Randle is the most impressive physical specimen I have seen since LeBron James. At 6-foot-9, 250 pounds, he has both the size and quickness very few possess. He looks to have the intangibles Kentucky was missing last season. I expect him to be the heartbeat of the Wildcats. He has an easy smile that makes his teammates react to him.
Randle is a relentless offensive rebounder, and after grabbing defensive rebounds, he has the ability to burst out and initiate the break. He is explosive going to the basket and had numerous thunderous dunks off drives from the high-post area. He is an adequate jump shooter, but he must not settle, because he's unstoppable when attacking the hoop. He is hard to defend both on the block and on the baseline.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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Willie Cauley-Stein, Sophomore center
Cauley-Stein is bigger and stronger than I remember him last season. He should be a dominating defensive player in 2013-14. Cauley-Stein not only can protect the rim, but he has the athletic ability to rebound out of his area. My concern is on the offensive end. He can finish dump-offs and lobs in the dribble-drive system, but he must develop a go-to move. He has a nice touch, though he releases the ball low. I expect the Kentucky coaching staff to work with him on a jump hook from the left block.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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Andrew Harrison, Freshman guard
He played hard, was unselfish and carried himself with confidence and poise. He got in the lane at will in both half-court and transition and played through contact at the rim. I would like to see him not change his shot when he gets in the lane, but he shot the ball confidently and with range. Harrison has the size, strength and quickness to be an excellent on-ball defender.

Aaron Harrison, Freshman guard
Harrison is a "ball guard" who will play some point guard. As a ball guard he can make plays for others as well as himself. He has great size and strength and shoots the ball effortlessly and with range. That said, he cannot fall in love with his jumper and settle for taking deep shots. Instead, he needs to attack and have balance to his offensive game. Defensively, he has the strength to get through screens, but like all freshman he must learn not to take plays off.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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James Young, Freshman wing
Young is the X factor for the Wildcats this season. The 6-6 wing is athletic and long, but the skill set he brings to the Kentucky lineup is as a knock-down jump shooter with 3-point range. This will open the floor for the Harrison brothers and Randle to play in space. He must learn to move on penetration, run the floor consistently and use his shot fake to set up his drive. An explosive athlete, Young is an active offensive rebounder. Defensively he has the quickness and length to be a lockdown defender.

Dakari Johnson, Freshman center
The 7-foot, 265-pound behemoth is the most intriguing prospect of the Kentucky freshmen. He has excellent hands and footwork and a knack for scoring around the basket. Despite having limited lift, Johnson uses patience and his body to create angles to score on the block. Johnson must improve his ability to change ends of the floor, and Calipari will have to decide how he will defend in ball-screen situations.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Can't wait to see UK flame out in the Sweet 16 tbh

 

[Dr. Jones]

that's a ****ty thing to say you ****ing *******.

 

[Deleted member 848]

It'll be hilarious when we talk about one of the best freshmen classes of all time flaming out mid-tournie to some middling basketball team with lotsa heart